Covid-19 vaccine

[Lacius]

Oh hey, found the probable title of the article this data is cannibalised from: "Evidence of Worse Outcomes Related to Cardiac Arrest during the COVID-19 Pandemic due to Patient Reluctance to Seek Care."
Not yet published, the article is also not yet accessible on the author's website https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/retsef-levi
But it does seem the data you're using is completely unrelated to the vaccine and completely related to "patient reluctance to seek care". Like, most likely because the healthcare system has been struggling for the past 18 months, so they don't want to overload it with what they thing is not going to be a big problem (and then the worse happens).

THAT is the actual biggest consequence of people continuing to let the variants go haywire: healthcare systems are under stress, so people who have something else are reluctant to seek care because they don't want to overload the system. And that means they don't get treated, get worse and sometimes die.

@Valwinz Can we get a concession from you?

 

[AngryCinnabon]

It's funny coming back here to see what tinfoil hatters are doing, cheap laughs.

 

[linuxares]

wait a minute
https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1425002893116166144

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/retsef-levi

Maybe not the best person to speak about viruses.

So the data is to new to show any concrete proof. It's not like people been stressed as fucked since 2020?

 

[subcon959]

@Valwinz do you by any chance work as a nurse in Germany?

 

[Valwinz]

Will you someday post actual scientific evidence and not random twitter posts with unsourced documents attached? Just wondering if you'll ever have something reliable to say or if you're just full on unredeemable

Lacius is not a scientist and he does it for free

 

[djpannda]

Will you someday post actual scientific evidence and not random twitter posts with unsourced documents attached? Just wondering if you'll ever have something reliable to say or if you're just full on unredeemable

...your asking them not to Breathe.... Thats the only info they believe....

 

[Lacius]

Lacius is not a scientist and he does it for free

1. I am not a scientist, which is why I post relevant scientific data from actual scientists.
2. You seem to have no problem hypocritically posting things from non-scientists when they share your anti-vax and anti-science ideologies.
3. I make my posts for free, as do you. Each time you bring this up though, it reminds me of the embarrassing time political activism was actually feigned for monetary gain: when Trump paid people to pretend to support him when he announced his candidacy for president in 2015.
4. Are you going to concede that your previous post about heart disease is debunked nonsense, or are you just going to go quiet, bide your time, and then come back later to shitpost after your previous shitposting has been forgotten?

 

[SaberLilly]

I just got my first shot today, got to go get round two in another month.

 

[Hanafuda]

 

[jimbo13]

How is local politics about unrelated drugs penalisation relevant to the covid and covid-vaccine subject, already?
Because I really fail to see where there is any relevance to any of jim's diversions, tbh. Like anything he says is a diversion to not have to acknowledge his beliefs against covid-vaccines and mask mandates are biased and outright flawed, why are we still falling into that?

How is it Jimbos diversion when I was answering a question Lacius a question asked? Off topic fair enough, but I was not the only one straying.

My opposition to masks and vaccine is entirely limited to facts and historical behavior. Yes I do believe plenty of information progressives would reject because any researcher who discusses anything off script is instantly labeled a quack and memory hole'd. But I don't even have to acknowledge it before coming to the same conclusion.

Your sockpuppet is obvious by the way.

1) To accept Covid mask guidelines I would have to believe the prior 50 years of airborne transmission of virus and mask data was wrong, as was the training given to medical professionals. So either health officials were either lying then, now or incompetent.

Outside of full biohazard kits the only effective mask is a professional N95 mask when the user is properly trained to not touch their face, distance and sanitizing constantly. Says medical training that was provided to every professional for the last 50 years.

Our government officials lied to the public to the public regarding N95 masks to horde for their priorities, a year later after production/stock issues could of been solved they continue the nonsense.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/fauc...interview-about-mask-wearing-was-one-year-ago

They did not test the infinite number of materials, makes and combinations of home made mask which would make any study you provided on their effectiveness anecdotal at best.

Governments have had more than enough time to make N95 masks readily available and encourage them they have not done so. Indicative they do not legitimately care. There has been no PSA's/training or emphasis on the very important issue of face touching and basic explanations of contact, absence of such behaviors render the masks theater.

Not only are masks as inconsistent as their composition, they encourage bad behavior. I want people to be cautious and concerned about my unmasked face. What I don't want is someone under the false security of their face binky getting close and trying to discuss something with me.​

2) My people have had vaccines and experimental drugs weaponized against us for the last 200 years. We have been forcibly inoculated to make us safe for white settlers, our children were put in boarding schools and subjected to vaccines deemed risky for white children. I know countless elderly veterans who became blind in their 40s due to targeted use of experimental vaccines from military trials in the 60s used on Native Americans and blacks only.

Come down to the Crow Agency, we have heard "Safe and effective" before it was trendy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/03/28/native-americans-vaccine-smallpox-covid/

3) Governments are not to be trusted, see history pg. all of them.

When institutions have already lied and are now engaging in institutional censorship of dissenting information, those institutions are not trustworthy and I reject their guidance. If you are restricting and stifling my access to information of my choosing you are a liar, gaslighting and not to be trusted or complied with in anyway.

I am completely within established facts to have reached my conclusion.​

 

[Valwinz]

It seems like RBG never left not sure why Dems where mad a Barrett
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1425929920610541568

 

[RocaBOT]

I'm not even going to bother, you're the one who started the whole politics and comparison with drugs shit jim, you're the one throwing diversions. And it's been discussed countless times how your "facts" are biased, you only accept facts that go towards your own beliefs and refuse to consider the ones that prove the opposite or that show there is a nuance between things. As long as you're behaving like that, I have no care for your repeating over and over the same bullshit while others can go all day with countless times more different things that show at least a bit of nuance towards the opposite.

As for Valwinz, you have been answered to, I need not repeat what has been said. There's a huge difference between your twitter shitpost and actual articles and relevant authorities posted by others like Lacius.

 

[Lacius]

How is it Jimbos diversion when I was answering a question Lacius a question asked? Off topic fair enough, but I was not the only one straying.

I didn't bring up marijuana. It was, indeed, your diversion.

 

[djpannda]

I just got my first shot today, got to go get round two in another month.

Congrat! Your doing God’s work. As the vaccine is just as much for others who can’t get the vaccine than you!

 

[jimbo13]

I didn't bring up marijuana. It was, indeed, your diversion.

As a brief remark In the context of FDA credibility, then you started debating it. That conversation was entirely a Jimbo/Lacius baby, but if your saying I was the top in the relationship I agree.

 

[Lacius]

As a brief remark In the context of FDA credibility, then you started debating it. That conversation was entirely a Jimbo/Lacius baby, but if your saying I was the top in the relationship I agree.

I'm saying how the law classifies marijuana is irrelevant to the science of COVID-19. Bringing it up was demonstrably another one of your distractions.

 

[Goku1992A]

I originally voted no but I changed my vote. I got my first dose 2 days ago and I will get my second one in two weeks.

Just get vaccine a guy at my job died because of Codvid and he left behind his 4 year old daughter. Dont underestimate this the vaccine will help you

 

[Lacius]

It seems like RBG never left not sure why Dems where mad a Barrett
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1425929920610541568

Just because she ruled appropriately on an issue that never should have been politicized doesn't meant she isn't likely to rule inappropriately on other issues.

 

[djpannda]

I originally voted no but I changed my vote. I got my first dose 2 days ago and I will get my second one in two weeks.

Just get vaccine a guy at my job died because of Codvid and he left behind his 4 year old daughter. Dont underestimate this the vaccine will help you

Thank you for sharing! The more people that explain their reasons might save a life of someone on the fence

 

[SG854]

Thank you for sharing! The more people that explain their reasons might save a life of someone on the fence

It's a shame that a death causes someone to change their mind. If they listened to science to begin with then this could've been avoided.