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He's a Witch Doctor that's what he is.
I'm someone who understands the difference between a gamete and a human being.
By the way, I've learned it on school, when I was a teenager, not in college, so I wonder how proficient you are in high school biology. Do you know at all what a cell is?

Dude, if you are anti-abortion, you don't know what freedom is. Sorry, but you don't. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.
What is freedom, pal?

Dude, if you are anti-abortion, you don't know what freedom is. Sorry, but you don't. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.

"Thomas Aquinas's use of the terms libero, libertas, and liberum arbitrium in the Summa theologiae gives us a wealth of information about free will and freedom. Human beings have free will and are masters of themselves through their free will. Free will can be impeded by obstacles or ignorance but naturally moves toward God. According to Servais Pinckaers, our freedom can be that of indifference (the morality of obligation) or that of excellence (the morality of happiness). The difference is that of free will moving reason versus reason moving free will. The freedom of indifference is the power to choose between good and evil. The will is inclined toward neither and freely chooses between them. The freedom for excellence is the power to be the best human being we can be. Here the rules, or what makes for a good human being, are the grounding for freedom. One who observes these rules has the freedom to become excellent. According to Aquinas, intellect and will have command over free will. This then is true freedom, and on this Aquinas and Pinckaers agree. We do not have freedom of indifference, we have freedom for excellence. Anything else makes us slaves."

As you can see, brilliant minds have alredy given brilliant answers on this ever hot subject.
 

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What is freedom, pal?

Another one playing dumb when presented with simple questions. "But but but what??? What do you mean by freedom?" LMFAO! Just like the other moron that claimed they had zero idea what medical freedom meant, then never came back to the conversation. Just stop with the pretend little lost sheep that doesn't understand gimmick. Doctor my cats asshole. Just answer the damn question, pal.
 

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Another one playing dumb when presented with simple questions. "But but but what??? What do you mean by freedom?" LMFAO! Just like the other moron that claimed they had zero idea what medical freedom meant, then never came back to the conversation. Just stop with the pretend little lost sheep that doesn't understand gimmick. Doctor my cats asshole. Just answer the damn question, pal.
I've posted Dr. Aquinas' answer above, if you actually care about this topic, that is.
 

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This reminds me of George Carlins comments on abortion and those who oppose it. After a comment as incredibly stupid as the one you made, I'm 100% positive you fit the bill from the first 20 seconds of this clip. Well, the entire thing actually. But the first 20 seconds is especially relevant to the quoted comment.


Again, what's so hard about not fucking? Do that really people have so little self control and reasoning?
Why do you feel the need to control other people?
Why do you? Like with the "vaccines" aka experimental booster shot.
For the third time, protection isn't 100% effective.
Then. Don't. Fuck. And even when it fails it's rare, not a common thing like people want to believe. It'll work a lot of the times. Only if like, the condom was cheap or broken or something along those lines then it won't work.
In general, most people like sex and are sexually active.

I guess this is a case of not knowing what you're missing.
Or maybe some people have self control. Sex is good, but too much of a good thing is always bad. Didn't your mother teach you that? If you're really that worried though, don't have sex. I don't know how much simpler I can make it.

Conservative logic, guns can't be limited because of mah rights, and criminals ignore laws. Also Conservative logic, we can limit human bodies, sexuality, gender, and everything else but it's not big government if it's all being done by the state.
Oh the horror on not being able to identify on any of the 100000000 genders that don't exist and not being able to make people submit to your fantasy because "muh gay rights".

Conservative logic: "Abortion isn't a constitutionally protected right because the word 'abortion' doesn't appear in the Constitution, but I have a constitutional right to own weaponry that isn't explicitly mentioned in the Constitution and didn't even exist when the Second Amendment was written."
Guns did exist back when the second amendment was written you moron. The amendment was made so people would have a way to self defense and/or if the government got way too big or controlling, the people have a safeguard so they wouldn't get too control happy. Learn history.

My childhood has nothing to do with it. I just go outside and talk to people. Yes, it's that simple.
As stated by many people you keep misqualifying the removal of a bunch of cells as murder. It is not a baby at this stage, they are not killing babies just like you're not committing murder by masturbating.
And actually, I was against mandatory injections -even though I got my 3 shots- exactly because of what you're saying. My body, my choice. I understand why it happened in many countries though. Many people refusing to wear masks and the bare minimum to keep themselves and other safe.
And I bed people enjoy talking to you so much they cross the street to avoid you. It is life, Roe v. Wade is gone, get over it. And masks don't do shit, the end.
Good, I wasn't planning on it.
Ok continue being a horrible human being, no skin off my bones.
@BitMasterPlus

You know what's so stupid about the don't have sex argument. What if its a married couple having sex wearing protection and yet some accident happens and the woman gets pregnant like a condom accidently ripping or something.
You can be married and after a kid or two not have sex anymore and still love each other. I don't see the point you're trying to make here. Get stronger condoms and birth control pills, it's not that hard.
The fit the bill of conservative logic that they are married. And use protection. And yet by dumbass conservative logic they should be forced to take care of a kid they never intended. This kid can have financial consequences on the family if they cant afford it or mental consequences on a family that didn't want kids.
So if we just abort all babies on earth, how will the human race survive? Take precautions, and if something happens, make the best of it. How heartless one must be to look at one's own flesh and blood, in the womb or out, and say, "Ew, I don't wanna take care of this thing even though I should've been more careful. Kill it." Don't you see how evil that is? Or course not, and that's another problem.

So should married couples never have sex ever? Only have sex to produce a child or however many they want and then never have sex ever again for the rest of their life. This is pure stupidity. But I'm sure a loser like you who never had sex wouldn't understand this.
They can have sex. Use protection, get a vasectomy, just be careful. And don't talk about my sex life as if you know about it when probably the only sex you have is the cheap ass disease ridden whores down the street corner of the democratic shithole you live in.
All life huh. What about that steak on your plate?
Comparing a steak to a human being. We're getting to peak leftism alright. For thousands of years, humans have used livestock, such as cows and pigs, for the sustenance they need. Should we condemn wild animals for hunting other animals then? I'm sure that wolf pack will listen to you on their next hunting trip.

Dude, if you are anti-abortion, you don't know what freedom is. Sorry, but you don't. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.
Because the freedom to kill babies and snuff out someone else's life is what true freedom is all about. Sorry, but you don't know what actual freedom is. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.
 

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I've posted Dr. Aquinas' answer above, if you actually care about this topic, that is.

Answer the question. Do you actually believe in freedom or not? Yes or no.

Again, what's so hard about not fucking? Do that really people have so little self control and reasoning?

Why do you? Like with the "vaccines" aka experimental booster shot.

Then. Don't. Fuck. And even when it fails it's rare, not a common thing like people want to believe. It'll work a lot of the times. Only if like, the condom was cheap or broken or something along those lines then it won't work.

Or maybe some people have self control. Sex is good, but too much of a good thing is always bad. Didn't your mother teach you that? If you're really that worried though, don't have sex. I don't know how much simpler I can make it.


Oh the horror on not being able to identify on any of the 100000000 genders that don't exist and not being able to make people submit to your fantasy because "muh gay rights".


Guns did exist back when the second amendment was written you moron. The amendment was made so people would have a way to self defense and/or if the government got way too big or controlling, the people have a safeguard so they wouldn't get too control happy. Learn history.


And I bed people enjoy talking to you so much they cross the street to avoid you. It is life, Roe v. Wade is gone, get over it. And masks don't do shit, the end.

Ok continue being a horrible human being, no skin off my bones.

You can be married and after a kid or two not have sex anymore and still love each other. I don't see the point you're trying to make here. Get stronger condoms and birth control pills, it's not that hard.

So if we just abort all babies on earth, how will the human race survive? Take precautions, and if something happens, make the best of it. How heartless one must be to look at one's own flesh and blood, in the womb or out, and say, "Ew, I don't wanna take care of this thing even though I should've been more careful. Kill it." Don't you see how evil that is? Or course not, and that's another problem.


They can have sex. Use protection, get a vasectomy, just be careful. And don't talk about my sex life as if you know about it when probably the only sex you have is the cheap ass disease ridden whores down the street corner of the democratic shithole you live in.

Comparing a steak to a human being. We're getting to peak leftism alright. For thousands of years, humans have used livestock, such as cows and pigs, for the sustenance they need. Should we condemn wild animals for hunting other animals then? I'm sure that wolf pack will listen to you on their next hunting trip.


Because the freedom to kill babies and snuff out someone else's life is what true freedom is all about. Sorry, but you don't know what actual freedom is. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.

So what you're saying is, you don't believe in freedom. Especially medical freedom.
 

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Again, what's so hard about not fucking? Do that really people have so little self control and reasoning?

Why do you? Like with the "vaccines" aka experimental booster shot.

Then. Don't. Fuck. And even when it fails it's rare, not a common thing like people want to believe. It'll work a lot of the times. Only if like, the condom was cheap or broken or something along those lines then it won't work.

Or maybe some people have self control. Sex is good, but too much of a good thing is always bad. Didn't your mother teach you that? If you're really that worried though, don't have sex. I don't know how much simpler I can make it.


Oh the horror on not being able to identify on any of the 100000000 genders that don't exist and not being able to make people submit to your fantasy because "muh gay rights".


Guns did exist back when the second amendment was written you moron. The amendment was made so people would have a way to self defense and/or if the government got way too big or controlling, the people have a safeguard so they wouldn't get too control happy. Learn history.


And I bed people enjoy talking to you so much they cross the street to avoid you. It is life, Roe v. Wade is gone, get over it. And masks don't do shit, the end.

Ok continue being a horrible human being, no skin off my bones.

You can be married and after a kid or two not have sex anymore and still love each other. I don't see the point you're trying to make here. Get stronger condoms and birth control pills, it's not that hard.

So if we just abort all babies on earth, how will the human race survive? Take precautions, and if something happens, make the best of it. How heartless one must be to look at one's own flesh and blood, in the womb or out, and say, "Ew, I don't wanna take care of this thing even though I should've been more careful. Kill it." Don't you see how evil that is? Or course not, and that's another problem.


They can have sex. Use protection, get a vasectomy, just be careful. And don't talk about my sex life as if you know about it when probably the only sex you have is the cheap ass disease ridden whores down the street corner of the democratic shithole you live in.

Comparing a steak to a human being. We're getting to peak leftism alright. For thousands of years, humans have used livestock, such as cows and pigs, for the sustenance they need. Should we condemn wild animals for hunting other animals then? I'm sure that wolf pack will listen to you on their next hunting trip.


Because the freedom to kill babies and snuff out someone else's life is what true freedom is all about. Sorry, but you don't know what actual freedom is. Nor do you support it. Sorry, but you just don't.
The global chinese virus madness has shown us how much leftists/socialists care about any kind of freedom...

"The coronavirus is a blessing to the left" - Jane Fonda

So what you're saying is, you don't believe in freedom. Especially medical freedom.
What I'm saying is, you sound like that retarded journo trying to catch Jordan Peterson into cliché journo traps.
 

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The global chinese virus madness has shown us how much leftists/socialists care about any kind of freedom...

"The coronavirus is a blessing to the left" - Jane Fonda

Quotes? Okay. I'll play along.

"I don't want this old white guy telling me what to do with my body.” - Kellyanne Conway

What I'm saying is, you sound like that retarded journo trying to catch Jordan Peterson into cliché journo traps.

Is there a reason why you still haven't just answersed the question? Still waiting...
 

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I'm someone who understands the difference between a gamete and a human being.
By the way, I've learned it on school, when I was a teenager, not in college, so I wonder how proficient you are in high school biology. Do you know at all what a cell is?


What is freedom, pal?



"Thomas Aquinas's use of the terms libero, libertas, and liberum arbitrium in the Summa theologiae gives us a wealth of information about free will and freedom. Human beings have free will and are masters of themselves through their free will. Free will can be impeded by obstacles or ignorance but naturally moves toward God. According to Servais Pinckaers, our freedom can be that of indifference (the morality of obligation) or that of excellence (the morality of happiness). The difference is that of free will moving reason versus reason moving free will. The freedom of indifference is the power to choose between good and evil. The will is inclined toward neither and freely chooses between them. The freedom for excellence is the power to be the best human being we can be. Here the rules, or what makes for a good human being, are the grounding for freedom. One who observes these rules has the freedom to become excellent. According to Aquinas, intellect and will have command over free will. This then is true freedom, and on this Aquinas and Pinckaers agree. We do not have freedom of indifference, we have freedom for excellence. Anything else makes us slaves."

As you can see, brilliant minds have alredy given brilliant answers on this ever hot subject.
Wow, that's a lot of words with literally nothing of value said.
So yeah, you clearly aren't a doctor and you are just another dupe account. Most likely the same guy who keeps making dupe accounts just so you can keep arguing nonsense in the political section.
 

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Quotes? Okay. I'll play along.

"I don't want this old white guy telling me what to do with my body.” - Kellyanne Conway



Is there a reason why you still haven't just answersed the question? Still waiting...
I'm not even a voter in the US, I had to look for that name you brought up. Did you know that Anthony Fauci did everything while president Trump was the POTUS? Haven't you learned yet that politics is a snake hole? You better learn that lesson sooner than later, pal.

As for the definition of freedom, I've pointed you to Thomas Aquinas' answer on the subject. I am waiting for YOUR answer on that.

Wow, that's a lot of words with literally nothing of value said.
So yeah, you clearly aren't a doctor and you are just another dupe account. Most likely the same guy who keeps making dupe accounts just so you can keep arguing nonsense in the political section.
Please, for God's sake, try to be less stupid...

About freedom, I'd like to reinforce the following statement:

"The coronavirus is a blessing to the left"
- Jane Fonda
 
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Please, for God's sake, try to be less stupid...
I literally just asked you a very basic question and you keep avoiding that question. The easiest answer is that you lied and I caught your bullshit. You aren't arguing in good faith, you are just pushing out some mad rambles and expected to be taken seriously due to your bullshit claim of being a doctor.
 

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I literally just asked you a very basic question and you keep avoiding that question. The easiest answer is that you lied and I caught your bullshit. You aren't arguing in good faith, you are just pushing out some mad rambles and expected to be taken seriously due to your bullshit claim of being a doctor.
I'm pretty sure socialist/leftists/satanists like you have a lot of "good faith" when you talk about freedoms. Yep, you care a lot about it.

The freedom of murdering babies and messing with a kid's gender is about the 2 only "freedoms" you defend.
By the way, that's not freedom, that's slavery, if you understand what Thomas Aquinas wrote about it (largely based on Aristotelean philosophy).
 

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About freedom, I'd like to reinforce the following statement:

"The coronavirus is a blessing to the left"
- Jane Fonda

You already said that. LMFAO!! Like, just a couple posts ago. :rofl2: And who gives a fuck if you had to look up who Kellyanne Conway is? Who she is is very relivant to this entire conversation, as was her quote. You having to look up who she is is not relivant in any way. Also, are you aware that anyone, at any give time, can pick and chose a quote to fit their agenda? Do you see how incredibly stupid it is? I posted the quote becasue you're playing stupid ass fuckign games. I'm just playing your own game. Seem you don't like it when you're not the winner.

You're 100% a dupe account. No one signs up for an account at a primarily gaming site, ONLY to post in this section. LMFAO! Not sure who you are, but you're not even anywhere close to being as smart as you think you are.

Still waiting for you to answer the question. Saying "But but but I'm asking YOU" is not answering the question.
 

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I'm not even a voter in the US, I had to look for that name you brought up. Did you know that Anthony Fauci did everything while president Trump was the POTUS? Haven't you learned yet that politics is a snake hole? You better learn that lesson sooner than later, pal.

As for the definition of freedom, I've pointed you to Thomas Aquinas' answer on the subject. I am waiting for YOUR answer on that.
Eh, Aquinas was more concerned with reconciling the idea of free will with the christian faith which is...tricky. I prefer David Hume and more modern philosophers: "a wise man proportions his belief to the evidence"
 

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I'm pretty sure socialist/leftists/satanists like you have a lot of "good faith" when you talk about freedoms. Yep, you care a lot about it.
I am pretty sure you said this
I'm a doctor
and still, fail to answer the simple question as to what you practice. Why can't you answer the most basic of questions?
 
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Eh, Aquinas was more concerned with reconciling the idea of free will with the christian faith which is...tricky. I prefer David Hume and more modern philosophers: "a wise man proportions his belief to the evidence"
The evidences that the human being inside the woman's womb is a human being are largely abundant.

Even under your modern mess of "philosophies", you're wrong, sorry.
 

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What field do you practice?
The evidences that the human being inside the woman's womb is a human being are largely abundant.

Even under your modern mess of "philosophies", you're wrong, sorry.

Still haven't answered either question.

Q: "What field do you practice?"
A:

Q: "Do you believe in actual freedom, or not?"
A: "I don't know what freedom means."

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
 

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The evidences that the human being inside the woman's womb is a human being are largely abundant.

Even under your modern mess of "philosophies", you're wrong, sorry.
All the evidence i have read would indicate the opposite; that human stem cells, and therefore fertilized eggs, are just blueprints and should not be considered human beings. What evidence are you referencing?
 
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Eh, Aquinas was more concerned with reconciling the idea of free will with the christian faith which is...tricky. I prefer David Hume and more modern philosophers: "a wise man proportions his belief to the evidence"
In the end, you will end up with this choice:

- Human lives don't matter, so Hitler did what he had to do, Gengis Khan was an awesome emperor who slaughtered the Chinese, Russians and Eastern Europeans, and Stalin was right to start the Holodomor to consolidate his power in Ukraine

or:

- Human lives are special, and I shall not murder a human being unless someone else's life is threatened by his actions (which obviously excludes the most innocent of all human lives, A BABY)


Pick your side. I go with the second one.

All the evidence i have read would indicate the opposite; that human stem cells, and therefore fertilized eggs, are just blueprints and should not be considered human beings. What evidence are you referencing?
Let's get it straight: this madness NEVER stops at the zygote stage. You relativize it in the beginning, you relativize it in all stages. Stop being ridiculously hypocritical about it, please. (maybe that's gonna be tough, given your modernist inclinations...)
 

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In the end, you will end up with this choice:

- Human lives don't matter, so Hitler did what he had to do, Gengis Khan was an awesome emperor who slaughtered the Chinese, Russians and Eastern Europeans, and Stalin was right to start the Holodomor to consolidate his power in Ukraine

or:

- Human lives are special, and I shall not murder a human being unless someone else's life is threatened by his actions (which obviously excludes the most innocent of all human lives, A BABY)


Pick your side. I go with the second one.
bit of "False dilemma" and "strawman" mixed up into one right there. Obviously I object the premise, as baking in your desired answer into the question isn't productive.

Let's get it straight: this madness NEVER stops at the zygote stage. You relativize it in the beginning, you relativize it in all stages. Stop being ridiculously hypocritical about it, please. (maybe that's gonna be tough, given your modernist inclinations...)

Scientifically? the brain doesn't start developing until about the 3rd trimester. This is around the time almost everyone agrees abortion is highly suspect. Before that, nothing of a person has been created, as the whole of the person is in the brain. That's the scientific argument. Religious arguments obviously don't care too much about science. But we shouldn't be making laws based on religious thinking.
 

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In the end, you will end up with this choice:

- Human lives don't matter, so Hitler did what he had to do, Gengis Khan was an awesome emperor who slaughtered the Chinese, Russians and Eastern Europeans, and Stalin was right to start the Holodomor to consolidate his power in Ukraine

or:

- Human lives are special, and I shall not murder a human being unless someone else's life is threatened by his actions (which obviously excludes the most innocent of all human lives, A BABY)


Pick your side. I go with the second one.
Let's get it straight: this madness NEVER stops at the zygote stage. You relativize it in the beginning, you relativize it in all stages. Stop being ridiculously hypocritical about it, please. (maybe that's gonna be tough, given your modernist inclinations...)
So you don’t have evidence and you are also not a doctor. You also don’t like freedom or medical freedom.
 

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    You gotta be on Psis level and hate your own people
    +2
  • BakerMan @ BakerMan:
    i meant everyone, even my own people, and myself
  • BigOnYa @ BigOnYa:
    Oh, well thats ok then
  • BakerMan @ BakerMan:
    (i don't dislike people, it's just a hypothe- aaaaaand i'm banned aren't i?)
    BakerMan @ BakerMan: (i don't dislike people, it's just a hypothe- aaaaaand i'm banned aren't i?)