Baby found dead in garbage; 18-year-old arrested

[linuxares]

I can make so many darkhumor jokes right now... anyway it's terrible, really terrible. But how stigmatized it is in some states with proper sexed, I'm not really surprised that it ended like this.

 

[DRAGONBALLVINTAGE]

She's an "adult" by one year. She's also a teen in Alabama, so her education has been poor at best

Hey! I take offense to that!

 

[Xzi]

The moral here is: If you don't want to risk it, close your god damned legs. Or better yet? Swallow...

The only extenuating circumstance that would even remotely be viable? Rape. Even then? She is still the one who CHOSE this path. She needs help. Still a wreckless and selfish move.

Yeah and maybe if any adult in the entire state would've told her about birth control or the Plan B pill or any of the modern options for sexual health then this never would've happened. Instead they probably said, "Jesus says not to do the no-no things" and left it at that.

Hey! I take offense to that!

It is what it is, the entire country is pretty far down the list of worldwide rankings on education.

In addendum, after High School matters more than everything up to then. A lot of what is taught by the big textbook makers (Rand McNally, etc) is a whitewashed, milquetoast viewpoint on things anyway.

 

[Deleted User]

And people say Abstinence is a bad way to go. Pffffft

 

[Pluupy]

-snipperysnipp-

To play devil's advocate a bit, she's 18 and certainly didn't have the knowledge base to make an informed decision on what to do once pregnant. This is also Alabama, so teen pregnancy is likely highly stigmatized and abstinence-only education is probably what's taught in schools. There are a lot of contributing factors when something like this happens, the blame isn't isolated to one person.

JESUS CHRIST NO

The age of 18 is already an adult and well-developed brain to make the decision "hey maybe I shouldn't have sex with that boy and murder the living human inside me". Hell at age 12 I could've told you that. There is clearly something wrong in this girl's head. It's pretty revolting to just birth a baby, bag it up or some such, throw it in a garbage bin, and go to straight to class.

God there is so much involved with child birth I don't understand how some people can toss out a baby and keep walking around. Some women can't walk for days after giving birth.

 

[FAST6191]

For the most part I am of the "this counts as world news?" persuasion here. It is here though so I will play.

Re fathers.
Given age of consent in Alabama (I assume this is where it all went down) is 16 then unless they were aware of the birth and resulting actions I fail to see where they would come in here. On the other hand if the prosecutor and/or judge wants to... heavily suggest that they witness the resulting court proceedings (assuming there are any and it is not pled out beforehand) I would be OK with that.

Age of consent and age of criminal responsibility both would appear to be passed here so there is also that. On the other hand I don't doubt the woman in question was in a horrible frame of mind following all this and "run away" is sadly all too common a default. I don't know the precise situation on the ground in Alabama for this sort of thing but know enough to know (though for the most part if place = bible belt then such facilities are not so hot) it is not a shining beacon of support and options. Hopefully that is not also reflected in the resulting psychological assessment and care provided. While I don't argue that a measure of responsibility rests with the mother I do also see a massive failure of the system that is hard to ignore in this.

"hey maybe I shouldn't have sex with that boy and murder the living human inside me"

That's not even a simplification of events there. Also the second part of that phrase is typically and widely used in condemnation of abortion (and there are issues with that vis a vis what counts as a human) which is a different discussion again. Whether you intended that or not I do not know but it is a known phrase and thus I mention it.

 

[dimmidice]

To play devil's advocate a bit, she's 18 and certainly didn't have the knowledge base to make an informed decision on what to do once pregnant.

That makes no sense. At 18 you definitely should know what to do when pregnant. Go see a doctor, tell your parents, tell a teacher. Any of those would've worked. If she didn't know to do one of those things it's not because of her age. It's cause she's an idiot.

You're right that there are circumstances surrounding this that are also to blame, but she's definitely the person that's ultimately guilty. Abstinence only is an idiotic practice though. As is this whole anti abortion anti contraceptives pro religion bullshit in rural america.

 

[barronwaffles]

Rofl, white trash.

 

[smf]

NO LOGICAL PERSON WOULD DO THAT. If she REALLY didn't want to have this baby? I could only imagine what her other options are.

Nobody is saying she acted logically, but then people rarely do no matter how much they like to think they do. Put anyone under the right kind of pressure and logical thinking is no longer something you could do if you tried & she might have not had much to go on in the first place.

I think she's got enough problems of her own, without the world trying to heap more on to her.

 

[Xzi]

That makes no sense.

Welcome to Alabama.

 

[Kioku]

Welcome to Alabama.

Gross... I'd rather go to Nebraska..