There was no credible investigation, so how are we supposed to know? The FBI didn't even interview Ford or Kavanaugh. The Republicans don't want the facts out, so the public won't find out the truth until much, much later.There was no credible, corroborated accusation.
A potentially relevant video in all this
I'm on my way out so only had time to browse/shuffle to a couple bits, but looks interesting. No idea what side the guy favors or if he's just dispassionately commenting/analyzing, but I will definitely watch later. First thought though -> guy looks a little green to be speaking for "lawyers." Need 20-30 years in the profession, as a litigator (not desk jockey type), to really have sufficient XP for that.
There was no credible investigation, so how are we supposed to know? The FBI didn't even interview Ford or Kavanaugh.
It doesn't matter in the least. If the FBI doesn't interview the two key figures they're supposed to be investigating, it's a sham investigation. The setting, the stakes, and the questions asked are all going to be different from a senate panel. It's also obvious that if they didn't interview the two people most directly involved, they avoided interviewing a lot of important secondary figures too.Do you understand that Ford testified to the Committee that she told them EVERYTHING she knew?
How would you be able to know that you need 20-30 years of experience? Isn't that what the purpose of a title is?I'm on my way out so only had time to browse/shuffle to a couple bits, but looks interesting. No idea what side the guy favors or if he's just dispassionately commenting/analyzing, but I will definitely watch later. First thought though -> guy looks a little green to be speaking for "lawyers." Need 20-30 years in the profession, as a litigator (not desk jockey type), to really have sufficient XP for that.
Do you understand that Ford testified to the Committee that she told them EVERYTHING she knew? If the FBI interviewed her and she gave them any difference in the story or any new information, it would mean she lied to the Committee and withheld information. Her lawyers and the Dem senators who kept bleating that whine knew this and had no intention of submitting her to FBI scrutiny.
It doesn't matter in the least. If the FBI doesn't interview the two most key figures they're supposed investigating, it's a sham investigation. The setting, the stakes, and the questions asked are all going to be different from a senate panel. It's also obvious that if they didn't interview the two people most directly involved, they avoided interviewing a lot of important secondary figures too.
Don't play this game. The investigation didn't find anything because the white house didn't want it to find anything. Even if FBI's mission was just "fact-finding," they did a piss poor job of that too because we don't have any more facts now than we did during the senate panel.Well that just goes to the question of exactly what the FBI was doing. You keep using the word investigation, but that implies fact-finding and reaching a conclusion.
Well that just goes to the question of exactly what the FBI was doing. You keep using the word investigation, but that implies fact-finding and reaching a conclusion. SJC is the fact finder for these hearings. The FBI conducted a supplemental background check, only. They can not and will not ever give an opinion as to whether Ford or Kabanaugh was telling the truth. That’s the SJC’s job.
Maybe they weren't able to find any evidence because it was 20+ years ago. Shocking.Don't play this game. The investigation didn't find anything because the white house didn't want it to find anything. Even if FBI's mission was just "fact-finding," they did a piss poor job of that too because we don't have any more facts now than we did during the senate panel.
Maybe they weren't able to find any evidence because it was 20+ years ago. Shocking.
But I would agree that Kavanaugh's responses are questionable.
There is no way to know for sure if Kavanaugh is lying or not, same with any of the accusers.Testimony is evidence as much as people want to pretend it's not. Also it's on record that it was a limited scope background check. They didn't gather anything, they interviewed 9 out of 10 people they were given on a list by the White House.
Even if I find the accusations to be political in nature, I can't believe any sane individual would deny the investigation was also political cover.
The FBI can and often does get to the heart of the facts in cases much older than 20 years. They weren't able to find any evidence because they were given a week and several over-bearing restrictions on who they were allowed to interview.Maybe they weren't able to find any evidence because it was 20+ years ago. Shocking.
But I would agree that Kavanaugh's responses are questionable.
Which are?The FBI can and often does get to the heart of the facts in cases much older than 20 years. They weren't able to find any evidence because they were given a week and several over-bearing restrictions on who they were allowed to interview.
There is no way to know for sure if Kavanaugh is lying or not, same with any of the accusers.
I think at the very best you could corner him into saying certain things, then asking other questions, and attempting to find discrepancies.That's not true. Testimony can be used to pick at strands until the truth comes out. The way people agree or disagree in their accounts can be very telling to a talented FBI Agent.
I think at the very best you could corner him into saying certain things, then asking other questions, and attempting to find discrepancies.
Well for starters, they didn't interview Kavanaugh or Ford. As I told Hanafuda, an FBI interview is far different from a senate panel, so that doesn't excuse the negligence here. It would take me a minute, but I could gather you probably at least ten articles from other people who wanted to give their testimony and were rejected as well, including his college roommate and drinking buddies.Which are?
There was no credible investigation, so how are we supposed to know? The FBI didn't even interview Ford or Kavanaugh. The Republicans don't want the facts out, so the public won't find out the truth until much, much later.
Also again, he disqualified himself without even taking the accusations into account. Emotional instability, consistent perjury, and blind partisanship do not a good SCOTUS justice make. I'll say it again: the legitimacy of the supreme court is dead. Kavanaugh is going to be deciding rulings based on "revenge" against the Democrats and women for his entire time on the court.