Do you feel the USA is better now than it was 22 years ago?

[TraderPatTX]

Do they staff the entrances to the toilets?

That was the official policy so there was no reason to staff the entrances.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

This is one of the reasons why parents were so upset in Virginia. A girl was raped because the school district allowed boys to go into the girls bathrooms. The girl's father was arrested at a school board meeting and vilified in the corporate left wing press and falsely claimed he was inciting violence.

Weird that you would focus on abortion instead of trying to prevent rape in the first place, but you are a leftist, so this isn't surprising. You ain't mad that she was raped, you are mad that she can't get an abortion. Wow, dude. Just wow.

No, this is not related at all. You're an imbecile for thinking these two are related. And you're too stupid to even understand what I am mad about.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

his own party was all full of socialists.
Read his book.

If YOU had actually read the book, you'd know he immediately distanced himself from socialism. You didn't, hence your idiotic comment.

 

[Acid_Snake]

If YOU had actually read the book, you'd know he immediately distanced himself from socialism. You didn't, hence your idiotic comment.

No, he didn't distance himself from socialism. He "sacrificed" a branch of his party known as the National-Bolshevics (commie nazis), to appeased to the old money in Bravaria (the rich part of Germany) where he wasn't very popular among the burgoise, he was more popular in the north among workers and the proletariat (I wonder why...).

So yeah he hated the commies, and fucked over even the ones that were friendly to him, so he could gain favors from the rich people of Germany.

Once he claimed power, he fucked the rich people over like the good socialist he was.

Nationalized all industries, made public health care, and a shitton of other basic socialist ideas that the left is now trying to push in Europe and the US, had already been done by Hitler before, and you dumb "woke" are way too asleep to even realize that you are students of the nazis.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Nationalized all industries, made public health care, and a shitton of other basic socialist ideas that the left is now trying to push in Europe and the US, had already been done by Hitler before, and you dumb "woke" are way too asleep to even realize that you are students of the nazis.

Yep, more than half a century of historians and scholars are all woke nazi students but you, an illiterate moron on a gaming forum, you know better than them! you, whose knowledge of history stops at google, and who obviously fail to understand languages different than your own, you know better!

 

[Acid_Snake]

Yep, more than half a century of historians and scholars are all woke nazi students but you, an illiterate moron on a gaming forum, you know better than them! you, whose knowledge of history stops at google, and who obviously fail to understand languages different than your own, you know better!

What historians and scholars? Can you name some?
Cause last time I checked, scholars used Hitler's own books, not some guy's interpretations of Hitler, to figure out how Hitler thinks.

It's pretty easy really, Hitler wrote a book where he made his ideas pretty damn clear. He wasn't a good writer either, so it doesn't take much brain power to read it. The fact that you haven't mentioned Hitler's book, just tells me that you haven't read shit about history, you probably read some cherry picked articles online.

Try not to get too technical with me, I'll school you any time anywhere about socialism, nazis, communism and fascism. I've read their books, and I've read their history. I've read Mussolini's newspaper Avanti, a radical Socialist newspaper that was nothing more than the voice of the Italian Socialist Party. The only reason Mussolini created the fascist party is because he was kicked out of the socialist party for being way too radical (basically: I'll make my own ideology with blackjack and hookers).
Fascism was born out of the radicalization of a (very popular) socialist leader.

Let's play a simple game that even a simple minded individual like yourself can understand: read Hitler's book, then read Marx and try to find the differences. I dare you to actually do this, rather than talking crap with no actual facts, links or any useful information to back it up.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Let's play a simple game that even a simple minded individual like yourself can understand: read Hitler's book, then read Marx and try to find the differences. I dare you to actually do this, rather than talking crap with no actual facts, links or any useful information to back it up.

I already did, so your dare means absolutely nothing to me, dumbass.

What historians and scholars? Can you name some?

Michael Ray, for one. Lipset, too. The whole goddamn Jewish community.

You can't school anything or anybody: you're a pathetic revisionist, like Williamson, trying to smear others with your embarassing hot-takes.

 

[kisamesama]

We don't want to be the police of the world. It's a drain on our resources and what other countries do is none of our business.

You don't want it but your country wants it... even if they don't want it anymore, they have been doing it forever and can't back off now.
What USA says is good, what other countries say is not good; that is how USA thinks.. it's either black or white with them. They have been promoting (it's propaganda but we can't say that... it's the US; they are the good guys) that line of thinking for decades through their media and communication and they are good at it.

 

[Acid_Snake]

I already did, so your dare means absolutely nothing to me, dumbass.

Michael Ray, for one. Lipset, too. The whole goddamn Jewish community.

You can't school anything or anybody: you're a pathetic revisionist, like Williamson, trying to smear others with your embarassing hot-takes.

That's not a scholar page, that's a wikipedia page. I was expecting actual academia papers, or books written by nazi members.
I want facts and data, not emotions and hearsay.

Also how is this Machael Ray any prominent figure in 20th century history, economic theory, and politics? I can't find anything about this guy being any popular in these fields.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

That's not a scholar page, that's a wikipedia page

Actually it's the official page of the Holocaust Encyclopaedia, so you know, people that actually KNOW what happened, not the stupidity you pander around. the other one is the Encyclopaedia Britannica, one of the most respected repositories of knowledge in the world. Not "wikipedia", you dimwit. And even so, even Wikipedia is better than the trash you read.

You want facts and data eh, minus habens?

Both Mussolini and Hitler identified fascism as right wing. Mussolini wrote explicitly “But fascism, which sits on the right, and is reactionary towards socialism, is revolutionary instead towards the liberal State and liberalism”.[1]

Contemporaries of Mussolini identified Italian fascism as right wing. A 1940 article in The Dublin Review identified fascism as the opposite of Marxism, writing “Marxism on the one hand, and Fascism and Nazism on the other”.[2]

In his early days, Hitler attempted to represent himself in a central position between the left and right, in order to try and gain as much support as possible.[3] However, sometimes he was far more clear about where he personally really positioned himself. In a 1922 speech Hitler said Germany faced two choices, “either the left”, which he identified as Bolshevism, that is socialism and communism, or “a party of the right”, which he identified as his own party, “the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago”.[4]

In 1925, the International Federation of Textile Workers’ Associations identified the Nazis as right wing, stating “there are now parties on the right wing, who are called National Socialists”.[5]

In 1928 the Foreign Policy Association Information Service, an American non-profit group, reported on the recent German elections, saying “The parties of the extreme Right are now two in number: The National Socialist Worker's Party and the German People's Freedom Movement”, thus identifying the Nazis, the National Socialists, as on the extreme right.[6]

In May 1930, Otto Strasser, a member of the Nazi Party who wanted the Nazis to be genuinely Marxist socialists, confronted Hitler with the fact that the Nazis were in fact becoming increasingly pro-capitalist and anti-Marxist. A point of contention between Strasser and Hitler was that Hitler objected to the pro-socialist commentary produced by the Kampfverlag, a publisher owned and published by the Nazi party, and run by the pro-socialist Nazis Gregor and Otto Strasser.

In a face to face conversation, Otto Strasser told Hitler that his desire to suppress the Kampfverlag “only serves to emphasize the profound difference in our revolutionary and socialist ideas”. Strasser also identified explicitly the fact that he knew Hitler’s stated aims for objecting to Kampfverlag articles were not genuine, telling Hitler “The reasons you give for destroying the Kampfverlag I take to be only pretexts”.

Instead, Strasser rightly said “The real reason is that you want to strangle the social revolution for the sake of legality and your new collaboration with the bourgeois parties of the Right”.[7] Thus even in 1930 a genuinely pro-socialist member of the Nazi party had told Hitler to his face that he knew Hitler was not a real socialist, and that Hitler was deliberately collaborating with right wing capitalists.

In 1930, the English Speaking Union, an educational charity founded in Britain, stated explicitly “The Nazis, National Socialists or Fascists represent the extreme Right wing”.[8] In 1931 an article in the mainstream American fashion and society magazine Vanity Fair stated that Hitler had gained power by splitting the left wing of German politics, and appealing to the right wing, writing “The Right Wing (Nationalist, Fascist, etc.) votes he wooed by promising agricultural relief for East Germany”.[9] Note here the explicit identification of fascism with the right wing.

In 1932 an article in the periodical Arnold Foundation Studies in Public Affairs commented on the recent German elections saying “The only political parties in the Reich which gained in strength between 1929 and 1933 were the Nazis on the extreme right and the Communists on the extreme left”.[10] Note how the Nazis are identified as on the extreme right, in complete opposition to the communists, who are identified as on the extreme left.

Also in 1931, a publication by the Institute of World Affairs, a non-government organization seeking peaceful resolution to political conflicts, referred to “the extreme right, which was led by Hitler and Hugenberg”.[11] In 1934, journalist Michael Fry published the book Hitler’s Wonderland, documenting his experiences in Nazi Germany to that date. Describing German’s political parties in the early 1930s, he wrote “Finally, on the extreme Right sat the National Socialist party”, that is, the Nazis.[12]

In 1939, an article in the journal Danubian Review, published in Budapest by Pesti Hirlap, a Hungarian daily newspaper, commented on recent political events in Germany, referring to “the extreme Right, the National Socialists”, that is, the Nazis.[13] Also in 1939, German Journalist Edgar Stern-Rubarth explicitly identified the Nazis as right wing, writing “both the Right Wing parties, the German Nationalists and the National Socialists”.[14]

This cross-section of historical documents from 1922 to 1939 shows that during the time the Italian and German fascist governments were in power, not only did Mussolini and Hitler themselves identify their parties as right wing, but so did their contemporaries. Regardless of political persuasion, commentators across Europe and in the US consistently understood the fascists to be both right wing, even “extreme right wing”, and the direct opponents of the left wing.

Consequently, commentators today who say the fascists were right wing are not historical revisionists, or inventing some new idea to insulate leftism from the left from criticism.

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[1] Benito Mussolini, “Luoghi comuni. Destra e sinistra”, in Il Popolo D’Italia, 29 July 1922, as quoted in Emilio Gentile, The Origins of Fascist Ideology 1918-1925 (Enigma Books, 2005), 205.

[2] F.R. Hoare, “A Europe Divided Against Itself,” The Dublin Review 206.412 (1940): 40.

[3] "On 19 November 1920 Hitler said that his party ‘was not fighting against the right or left but was taking what was valuable from both sides’.", Rainer Zitelmann, Hitler’s National Socialism (S.l.: Management Book 2000 Ltd., 2022), 680.

[4] Adolf Hitler, Munich, speech of April 12, 1922.

[5] International Federation of Textile Workers’ Associations, “Report of the Congress” 11.1924 (1925), 53.

[6] “Background of the German Elections,” Foreign Policy Association Information Service 4.5 (1928): 87.

[7] Strasser, Otto, Hitler and I, trans. Gwenda David and Eric Mosbacher (London: Jonathan Cape, 1940), 117.

[8] English Speaking Union, The English-Speaking World 12.1 (1930), 709.

[9] George Gerhard, “The Bronze Chancellor,” Vanity Fair 37.1 (1931), 88.

[10] S. D. Myres, Party Bolting, vol. 1 of Arnold Foundation Studies in Public Affairs 1 (Dallas, Texas: Southern Methodist University, 1932), 11-12.

[11] Institute of World Affairs, Proceedings of the Institute of World Affairs, vol. 9 (Institute of World Affairs, 1932), 80.

[12] Michael Fry, Hitler’s Wonderland (London: J. Murray, 1934), 2-3.

[13] “Parliamentary Elections in Hungary: Great Government Victory,” Danubian Review (Danubian News) (1939), 30.

[14] Edgar Stern-Rubarth, Three Men Tried..: Austen Chamberlain, Stresemann, Briand, and Their Fight for a New Europe (Duckworth, 1939), 214.

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Lastly, Ian Kershaw explicitly identifies nazism and fascism as right-wing movements in his book: "The Nazi Dictatorship: Problems and Perspectives of Interpretation". Kershaw is one of the world's leading experts on Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, and is particularly noted for his biographies of Hitler.

Have you been schooled enough or do you need more humiliation?

I don't even know why I went to such great pains to humour you, or why I indulged your pathetic sealioning.

 

[mrmagicm]

Leave the Damn Dark_Ansem alone!!!!
He prefers to have abortion back (which I am not against but if you consider just taking your car to go in a near state, they can still have an abortion if someone of the family drive the girl), instead of curing the root cause of the problem which are the rapers, prevention, society morality and education.....He thinks he has been educated, but hasn't, when you are educated, you don't insult everyone CQFD. Anyway the subject is still do you think USA has declined and that's all.

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[Dark_Ansem]

He thinks he has been educated, but hasn't, when you are educated, you don't insult everyone CQFD

Wrong, as usual. You lot deserve to be insulted for your own good, since insults are the only vector that can penetrate that thick bigoted skull of yours.

He prefers to have abortion back (which I am not against but if you consider just taking your car to go in a near state, they can still have an abortion if someone of the family drive the girl)

Until they actually make it illegal to do so, like they're already trying to do in Texas, dumbass.

instead of curing the root cause of the problem which are the rapers, prevention, society morality and education.....

Literally no one who says "rapers" can talk about understanding the root causes of issues far bigger than they are. A feeling I'm sure you're intimate with.

You think rape is a morality and education issue? There's plenty of self-professed religious hypocrites who are guilty of such. Especially plenty of your Republican mates. It's not a moral issue, it's a criminal issue.

More importantly, what exactly to do about this case in particular? He's not gonna be indicted, and a girl with a 6yo capacity was presumed to have consented "because she walked next to him". This is not an education issue. It's a cultural issue that isn't going away anytime soon.

Minus habens illiterate.

 

[TraderPatTX]

No, this is not related at all. You're an imbecile for thinking these two are related. And you're too stupid to even understand what I am mad about.

It's obvious that you are mad because all you care about is abortion and I called you out on it. It's also obvious that you are not mad that she got raped in the first place. You are also upset that I compared it to another school rape case that the left spent weeks attacking parents over. Face it, you and all of your leftist friends are ghouls. You make emotional comments and personally attack anybody who is not in lockstep with you because that is all you have to offer. Fortunately, there is a way out of the cult, but you have to want to do it.

 

[TraderPatTX]

You don't want it but your country wants it... even if they don't want it anymore, they have been doing it forever and can't back off now.
What USA says is good, what other countries say is not good; that is how USA thinks.. it's either black or white with them. They have been promoting (it's propaganda but we can't say that... it's the US; they are the good guys) that line of thinking for decades through their media and communication and they are good at it.

You confuse the people of the USA with the military industrial complex's uniparty. Take for example, Ukraine. Not a single poll taken this year shows that Americans even care about Ukraine. We could care less what happens there. That is only the far left because their leaders use Ukraine as a money laundering and child trafficking site.

 

[kisamesama]

You confuse the people of the USA with the military industrial complex's uniparty. Take for example, Ukraine. Not a single poll taken this year shows that Americans even care about Ukraine. We could care less what happens there. That is only the far left because their leaders use Ukraine as a money laundering and child trafficking site.

yeah that's what I am saying. You don't care but your government clearly cares cuz they need to be the world's police.

 

[TraderPatTX]

yeah that's what I am saying. You don't care but your government clearly cares cuz they need to be the world's police.

I agree for the reasons I stated above. Money laundering and child trafficking. Oh, and their biolabs. Those were very important too.

 

[mrmagicm]

You lot deserve to be insulted for your own good, since insults are the only vector that can penetrate that thick bigoted skull of yours.

If I have a skull, which is normal, you have a thicker helmet containing stupidity.

You think rape is a morality and education issue? There's plenty of self-professed religious hypocrites who are guilty of such. Especially plenty of your Republican mates. It's not a moral issue, it's a criminal issue.

Applause Dark_Ansem everyone , for him, a crime is a "criminal issue", it's not related to moral, education, society, instinct, money or anything else. To me, with a far away vision, one of the main is with Kids becoming adults or Alien becoming integrated, there is a lack of morality that leads to crime and many other problems.
The simple fact playing video game, with humans shooting humans, is violent and should be forbidden, why not shoot aliens "instead" of human like in "the returnal" for making a clear difference for people?? Did you know some kids have run through windows after seeing Superman thinking they were him? So that impact should be taken into consideration. Just like Dark_Ansem watched insulting series as a kid thinking they were great, look at what he has become ^^ Americans are over-influenced from what they watch from Netfilx and Video Games, like other nations are (you get less influenced when you get older that's all).

 

[TraderPatTX]

Actually it's the official page of the Holocaust Encyclopaedia, so you know, people that actually KNOW what happened, not the stupidity you pander around. the other one is the Encyclopaedia Britannica, one of the most respected repositories of knowledge in the world. Not "wikipedia", you dimwit. And even so, even Wikipedia is better than the trash you read.

You want facts and data eh, minus habens?


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Lastly, Ian Kershaw explicitly identifies nazism and fascism as right-wing movements in his book: "The Nazi Dictatorship: Problems and Perspectives of Interpretation". Kershaw is one of the world's leading experts on Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, and is particularly noted for his biographies of Hitler.

Have you been schooled enough or do you need more humiliation?

I don't even know why I went to such great pains to humour you, or why I indulged your pathetic sealioning.

Don't you find it odd that leftists try and define nazism and fascism as right wing, yet we are the ones who advocate for states rights and the left advocates for a centralized authoritarian government? The right advocates allowing the people to vote on issues while the left wants the courts to dictate to the people. The right believes in the right to bear arms, yet the first thing that fascists and communists both do when they take power is disarm the people. Nazis and fascists, along with communists are big proponents of abortion, just like the left here in America. I've come to the conclusion that you are not a critical thinker and you just regurgitate stuff because you agree with it.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Don't you find it odd that leftists try and define nazism and fascism as right wing, yet we are the ones who advocate for states rights and the left advocates for a centralized authoritarian government? The right advocates allowing the people to vote on issues while the left wants the courts to dictate to the people. The right believes in the right to bear arms, yet the first thing that fascists and communists both do when they take power is disarm the people. Nazis and fascists, along with communists are big proponents of abortion, just like the left here in America. I've come to the conclusion that you are not a critical thinker and you just regurgitate stuff because you agree with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Germany#Gun_regulations_in_Nazi_Germany
Actually, the state had lax gun laws for those citizens loyal to the Nazi party while giving them extensive gun freedoms and plenty of slack, and disarmed the jews.

Sooooooo, y'know, you miiight wanna get a new talking point.

Also, you should check the history books on that abortion thing. Nazi Germany was super anti-abortion if you were white, or otherwise could be "Germanized." Best case scenario, you'd be told no by a doctor, and worst case scenario, you'd face incredibly harsh sentences, either hefty fines or even prison time.

Righties btfo!!

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Applause @Dark_Ansem everyone , for him, a crime is a "criminal issue", it's not related to moral, education, society, instinct, money or anything else. To me, with a far away vision, one of the main is with Kids becoming adults or Alien becoming integrated, there is a lack of morality that leads to crime and many other problems

Which had nothing to do with the case but hey ho, you and the other dumbass are in a circlejerk.

It's obvious that you are mad because all you care about is abortion and I called you out on it. It's also obvious that you are not mad that she got raped in the first place. You are also upset that I compared it to another school rape case that the left spent weeks attacking parents over. Face it, you and all of your leftist friends are ghouls. You make emotional comments and personally attack anybody who is not in lockstep with you because that is all you have to offer

This is literally you, minus habens illiterate, fancy putting words never said in the mouths of others.