Ground Zero Mosque. Yes or No?

[BlueStar]

There's no 'direct translation' of a foreign noun originally written in a different alphabet. All you can do is listen to what it sounds like and put some letters together which look like they sound like that in English.I think our ideas of a direct translation are different.

It's not 'translation' at all, but romanisaition. The english translation for the Arabic word for apple is the English word for apple. When you're dealing with things like Koran/Quran or Muhammed/Mohammad you're not looking up the English word for Mohammed in a dictionary, you're just looking for a way of representing that name using the latin alphabet.

The direct translation of the word Koran into English would be "The Recitation".

And speaking of the Koran and the burning thereof, the two recent topics of this thread seem to have come together.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11256182
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The US pastor who threatened to burn copies of the Koran on the anniversary of 9/11 says his plans are "on hold".
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Mr Jones, who leads a small church with 50 followers, initially said the burning had been cancelled.

He then said it was only suspended because he was "lied to" over a deal to move an Islamic centre in New York.
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On Thursday, Mr Jones told reporters he had spent days waiting for a sign from God to cancel the protest, and that the sign had come in the form of a deal with a local imam to relocate a controversial Islamic cultural centre due to be built near Ground Zero in New York.

As a result, he said, he was dropping the planned protest and urged his supporters to do the same.

However, those behind the cultural centre denied that they ever spoken to the local imam or Mr Jones.

Mr Jones then said Imam Muhammad Musri had "clearly, clearly lied to us".

 

[Bri]

Jon Stewart's take (i.e. "Weekend at Burnies"):

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-sept...ies?xrs=eml_tds

-Bri

 

[BlueStar]

Muslims and Islam Were Part of Twin Towers’ Life

Given the vitriolic opposition now to the proposal to build a Muslim community center two blocks from ground zero, one might say something else has been destroyed: the realization that Muslim people and the Muslim religion were part of the life of the World Trade Center.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/nyregion/11religion.html

 

[Chaosruler]

Nothing is true, Everything is permitted

 

[RE4zombie]

I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think that there were any plans to the 9/11 attack to build a mosque (who does that anyway?).
But I do think that the people affected by the attack might hold a grudge against muslims (Even if far from all muslims thinks that the attack was a good idea, i'm not saying anything like that) and a mosque at ground zero is like literary strew salt in an open wound.

Feel free to build a mosque anywhere BUT in that place.

Muslim extremists attack USA -> crash planes into twin towers -> build muslim mosque close to that place....... just no....

So you are saying that Islam is the motive behind the attacks? That is like saying because gay pornography is not something to be viewed by kids, therefore no homosexuals should be allowed to go to school. The good old American way of thinking huh?

I feel like most Americans have this fear of Muslims because of a tiny group of individuals who do not accurately represent that religion. Saying that Muslims are terrorists is like saying that Jim Jones represents most Christians. Remember all the crimes committed in the name of Christianity. Constitutionally, they can build it where ever they want, and I'm sick of shitheads like the pastor in Florida and Glenn Beck in flaming people against Muslims. Ground Zero is not sacred, the death of 3,000 people from violence is sad, but no more so than every person who dies from hunger every 2 seconds. It's time to move on.

 

[Koumori_Knight]

@ RE4zombie: two thumbs up!

@everyone else:
This is all bull....I mean really?
Let's divorce the issue from "islam", and look at the fact that this is America. Unless there is a sign that some kind of illegal activity going on, ie: pedophiles, hate-mongering, bomb-making and so on, let it be built.
No religion is sin less.
Catholics have that whole pedo thing, christians have, well...that's another topic, Hindus have a strange penchant for burying baby girls...
The list goes on, so if you are going to say no mosque, that's fine-- please make sure no religious place of worship is built there, ever.

If, however, you believe that the actions of the few are not the actions of all then by all means, build that mosque.

Remember, extremists trade on that same way of thinking; one stupid little pastor threatens to burn a Koran, therefore all Americans hate islam and will bomb them back to the stone age. That makes it ok for them to hurt innocent people in their eyes. Our duty as Americans is to rise above that hateful way of thinking and follow our own words, our own word:freedom.

 

[smile72]

I don't understand why anyone cares. It's two blocks away, this is just stupidity, if it was a god damn church for Christians no one would have a problem, but because it's a mosque. And mosques are muslim places of worship , and some bad muslims attacked the World Trade Center. Everybody makes such a big deal out of moronic things, I can't understand how this country's news is made by bigoted Christians by that I mean Fox News.

 

[Mewgia]

people who have never been to that area don't even understand. do you know how far two city blocks is there? it's like a whole nother continent