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I'm at 10% because of the interim avatar... the JPH Advisory Warning one, lol... it was a 45 sec photoshop job because I was pissed...

but I don't need JPH coming in here and suspending me AGAIN for having an inappropriate avatar!
 

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JPH said:
When it boils down to it, use should look at the forum rules.

QUOTE said:
All actions, moderation and administration of GBAtemp are decided by the staff only and are not open to debate.

@Salamantis. Lies...l I told you that dynamic avatars aren't allowed, and you should read the *new* rules (you had said you never read the new, revised and updated rules).
I also told you why they aren't allowed - chances could be 1/100 images is a picture of pornography, and besides no one needs a flashy avatar.

a) I had 3 images in it.
b) I've read the rules, yes, and all it said was that they're not allowed.
c) QUOTE
Yet, you have a contest for a new flashy avatar...
You call a regular stupid 2-3 color avatar flashy?

Anyways, I'm not going to fight, I respect the rules, if they say no dynamic avatars I won't make a fuss about it.
But there's still another mod I'd like that would read this thread and learn from it.
 

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Summary of thread:

JPH is somewhat of a prick who overmoderates, rage ensues

AceGunman supports him, giving more information than JPH ever supplied, but still not really justify the ordeal and apparently did not read the whole thread (forgetting that OP PMed JPH about this already, Shuanj66 sort-of approved the avatar, massive hypocrisy in letting djgarf have a talking penis as an avatar) more rage ensues

JPH hides behind "staff decisions are final, we don't need to explain" like he typically does

JPH assumes that we are his friends by signing his posts "-JP," the nickname his friends have for him, sadly he is mistaken.

I could go on with what is wrong here but I have to go for a while.
 

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Mewgia said:
Summary of thread:

JPH is somewhat of a prick who overmoderates, rage ensues

AceGunman supports him, giving more information than JPH ever supplied, but still not really justify the ordeal and apparently did not read the whole thread (forgetting that OP PMed JPH about this already, Shuanj66 sort-of approved the avatar, massive hypocrisy in letting djgarf have a talking penis as an avatar) more rage ensues

JPH hides behind "staff decisions are final, we don't need to explain" like he typically does

JPH assumes that we are his friends by signing his posts "-JP," the nickname his friends have for him, sadly he is mistaken.

I could go on with what is wrong here but I have to go for a while.
Nice summary.
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I don't care to explain myself when the rules are there for you to refer to. It's a waste of time.
Djgarf has done more for the GBAtemp website and IRC channel than you'll ever know; show some respect (yes, I think he should be given leeway in this matter - don't agree? Well, I'm just so sorry - why don't you go whine to him?).

Yeah, I "hide" behind the rules. Nice one.

BTW, my friends in real life call me "JP" (been called that since I ever could remember). Another nice one.

Please, continue on.
 

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Mewgia said:
Summary of thread:

JPH is somewhat of a prick who overmoderates, rage ensues

AceGunman supports him, giving more information than JPH ever supplied, but still not really justify the ordeal and apparently did not read the whole thread (forgetting that OP PMed JPH about this already, Shuanj66 sort-of approved the avatar, massive hypocrisy in letting djgarf have a talking penis as an avatar) more rage ensues

JPH hides behind "staff decisions are final, we don't need to explain" like he typically does

JPH assumes that we are his friends by signing his posts "-JP," the nickname his friends have for him, sadly he is mistaken.

I could go on with what is wrong here but I have to go for a while.
Thanks for the summary?
Sounds biased though, I'll read the thread for myself?
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Mewgia said:
Summary of thread:

JPH is somewhat of a prick who overmoderates, rage ensues

AceGunman supports him, giving more information than JPH ever supplied, but still not really justify the ordeal and apparently did not read the whole thread (forgetting that OP PMed JPH about this already, Shuanj66 sort-of approved the avatar, massive hypocrisy in letting djgarf have a talking penis as an avatar) more rage ensues

JPH hides behind "staff decisions are final, we don't need to explain" like he typically does

JPH assumes that we are his friends by signing his posts "-JP," the nickname his friends have for him, sadly he is mistaken.

I could go on with what is wrong here but I have to go for a while.
Wow that is surprisingly accurate. Ive seen this happen before; invisible rickrolls, numerous avatars, suspensions, etc. (if my memory serves me. I recall this like dejavu but not one specific topic)
 

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@Diablo: When I do thread summaries, it is usually because I am annoyed at some of the things said in it, generally by staff. I pick out the stuff I don't agree with, a leave out the stuff I do agree with because it is more or less inconsequential the objective I have in mind when I write the the summary.

JPH said:
Mewgia said:
Summary of thread:

JPH is somewhat of a prick who overmoderates, rage ensues

AceGunman supports him, giving more information than JPH ever supplied, but still not really justify the ordeal and apparently did not read the whole thread (forgetting that OP PMed JPH about this already, Shuanj66 sort-of approved the avatar, massive hypocrisy in letting djgarf have a talking penis as an avatar) more rage ensues

JPH hides behind "staff decisions are final, we don't need to explain" like he typically does

JPH assumes that we are his friends by signing his posts "-JP," the nickname his friends have for him, sadly he is mistaken.

I could go on with what is wrong here but I have to go for a while.
Nice summary.
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I don't care to explain myself when the rules are there for you to refer to. It's a waste of time.
Djgarf has done more for the GBAtemp website and IRC channel than you'll ever know; show some respect (yes, I think he should be given leeway in this matter - don't agree? Well, I'm just so sorry - why don't you go whine to him?).

Yeah, I "hide" behind the rules. Nice one.

BTW, my friends in real life call me "JP" (been called that since I ever could remember). Another nice one.

Please, continue on.

I find that rules are rather useless if they have no logical backing to them.
So justifying the rules with rules - that makes no sense.

I know that djgarf has done a lot for GBAtemp. I understand that. But - to refer to your precious rules - is there anything in there that says "Note: these rules may or may not apply to staff?" No. That line does not exist. The rules you love so much have just reinforced the hypocrisy in your actions. I have no problems with djgarf and I have no problems with his avatar, so no, I will not go whine and complain to him. I do, however, have problems with blatant hipocracy.

And yeah, you do "hide" behind the rules. To make a (bad) analogy to reinforce this: Remeber when everyone was in an uproad about a year ago because the Bush administration conducted interviews and such and decided that they did not need to release the transcripts of these interviews, even though they should have? Nobody liked that, and nobody should have liked it. This is the same sort of deal, just on a much smaller scale. While I understand that your rules are not a matter of national security, they are still important as they govern a body over over 100,000 members.

And as for your nickname, "JP," I was not implying that your friends in real life do not call you that. Rather, I was saying that when you sign your posts with the nickname your friends gave you (which is redundant anyway, if we wanted to see who made the post we could look at your username) you are assuming that we are your friends as well. As can be seen, this does not seem to be the case. If you want to act like you are above us all (which, in a way, you are, because you have powers on the forum that we do not), do not try to act like we are your good friends.

Also, another point, that I did not address in my first post, I hate subjective rules. They are stupid and should not be put in place. Saying something like "if a avatar is obscene or offensive we will remove it" is rather vague and subjective, interpretation of the rule varies from person to person. As we have seen in this very thread, while JPH is completely against the avatar, shuanj66 approves of it. Since shuanj has more power, the avatar stays. But why is there such a big discrepincy here? It is mainly becausethere is nothign in the rules that outlines what and "obscene" or "offensive" avatar is. Does it include cleavage (which is rediculous, because a) you can see lots of cleavage by walking downtown at any time of the day or night and b) everyone on this forum should be over 13 and I challenge you to find a 13-year-old that spends enough time on the internet to be able to find GBatemp that has not watched porn, which is much "worse" than cleavage)? Does it mean foul language? Drug refrerece? Gang symbols? Funny depictions of penises? What? If you're going to impliment such rules, there needs to be more constraints on theme - for example, I could say that p1ingpong's avatar is offensive because I am anti-war and it showcases a very lethal weapon. Or, I could say that I do not like Shuanj66's avatar because it is a roadsign from route 66, a highway that was dominated by rednecks, and I was raped by rednecks when I was a little kid so I have an enourmous fear and loathing toward them and all things related. While, obviously, I don't actually care about those things, somebody might, and then what? You'd tell them to basically that you're sorry they feel that was but you won't do anything about it, and they can go fuck themselves for all you care.

That ends my rant for now, I think I will go take out my anger and aggression on noobs in Counter Strike for a while.

I will be back, though, if I need to be.

To add as a closing note: As Gore said in a post on the front page of this thread responding to JPH calling zidane_genome a "prick" for wanting to use his not-really-against-the-rules avatar (that he spent a good amout of time on, drawing it himself):
Gore
Fighting for your rights = prick
FUCK DEMOCRACY
FUCK FREEDOM
YOU ARE ALL PRICKS
 

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ok, before you guys get all mad at JPH
i think you should get mad at me first
im the one that "reported" your avvy zidane. i think.
its offensive to me.
only cuz im a girl. and i dont come to forums to see that kinda vulgarity.
true, she doesnt show any pubic hair, pussy, or other parts
but. its probably the same thing if she wasnt wearing anything at all on top
sure, you can argue that djgarf has a talkin penis. the penis isnt on a body yeah?
and also,
even if someone else wants to break the rules
it doesnt mean you should also.

so yeah.
blame me
flame me.
do whatever you want to justify that avatar.
you cant deny that its offended at least one person.

and if you can have an avatar like that
just cuz you think every guy on here drools over drawn anime boobs
then think again. there ARE girls on here.
i dont think much guys will approve
if i show up with an avvy of a naked guy with half of his penis showing
 

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Erm, Mewgia, I don't feel like replying to most of that long post right now (I'll get around to it sometime) - I will say that signing "-JP" on the forum is pretty fucking stupid to criticize someone over. Sinkhead used to sign "-Sam", that's no different with me. A lot of you may not like you, but I assure you I know many other members on the forum that I value and are pals with me.

And also, no, zidane_genome created this thread out of spite towards me.
That's why I called him/her a prick.

And I also giggled about the part 'Fighting for your rights'
This is an internet forum, you really don't have much if any rights.

Tinymonkeyt, let me take all the bitching on this one lol
You didn't do anything wrong.
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Mewgia said:
The rules regarding offensive content are subjective for a reason. We cannot possibly cover every inappropriate bit of content in the rules. The sheer level of gratuitous sexual acts and violence we would need to list would be 28 paragraphs unto itself. So what it comes down to is personal opinion of the staff members. If an individual staff member finds the content offensive, they may remove it at their discretion, and most of the time the other staffers will not overturn said act because we try not to pull rank on eachother.

I remember once mthrnite removed a comical cereal box image. It was in regards to the "shit for breakfast" line in Happy Gilmore. I didn't find this content objectional, myself, I thought it was rather amusing. But mthr was of the opinion that regardless of if it was real shit or fake shit, it was disgusting and he felt it should be removed. I disagreed, but I didn't reverse it because not everyone takes offense with what you or I is or isn't offended by.

They're subjective because staff opinions of what is and isn't offensive are subjective. We don't all share the same views, and it would be impossible to cover every thing that we find to be explicit because of that, and because of the sheer level of the content involved.

My personal standard is to live by what one could see on day time TV or a magazine cover. If it's not overly sexualized or explicit I'm fine with it. JPH and tiny just happened to find a woman fondling her breasts through a skimpy outfit offensive, and I can see where they're coming from.

However these things are not up for public debate. Everyone has different opinions and it ALWAYS ends up with various people being ticked off that certain other people don't subscribe to their viewpoint. It devolves into flaming and personal attacks and is just generally unseemly. We discourage people complaining about things publicly for this reason. All it does is stir up more trouble we then have to clean up and get hated for.

If you have an issue, the rules state to PM a staff member instead of posting about it on the forum, do they not? Well, I bring this up because who says it needs to be the staff member you took issue with? If you can't get a decent reply from them, try one of the other various available staffers.

In closing, the removal of content is subject to individual staff opinion, live with it. Some are less strict than others. I hate to be Mr. Rules, but if you have an issue with an act or the rules we are not obligated to answer it. We do so when we do out of the goodness of our hearts. It is not a right nor a requirement.

Anyways, this topic has gone far enough, topic closed.
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