Signs Of Doomsday Day!!!

[bsfmtl123]

Women population in the present century is also higher than men

Again, cite please. All figures I've seen on this says men outnumber women, which is mostly down to the huge pressure to have a male heir in the world's two most populous countries, India and China.

Yes, men do outnumber women in some places but there are places where women outnumber men.

Those "some places" being the two contries which have 20% and 17% of the population of the planet each (The third most populous country is the US, with 3.4%). Even if in some 'places' (A country? A city? A building?) women outnumber men, in the place called the world, men outnumber women.

But some time in the future women will outnumber men in nearly every place.

Demographics of India:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_India

Demographics of China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_...public_of_China

Checkout the sex ratio at birth and so on.....

Here checkout Sex Ratio around the World,u will have a better view now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

 

[BlueStar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

The CIA estimates that the current world wide sex ratio at birth is 107 boys to 100 girls. The value for the entire world population is 101 males to 100 females.

So amongst the whole population, men outnumber women, and there's now even more boys being born. Surely that means the gap is widening, not narrowing?

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But some time in the future women will outnumber men in nearly every place.

Based on what? I can't see any evidence that looks like it's going to happen. Even if it does, it will only be slight (We're certainly not going to see anything as big as 120 women for every 100 men, because of the natural corrections of the population based on Fisher's principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%27s_principle)

The Quran might say things like humans are getting smaller and women are going to start outnumbering men, but we can see clear as day that the exact opposite is happening. If God wrote the Quran, God's wrong.

 

[Pyrmon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

The CIA estimates that the current world wide sex ratio at birth is 107 boys to 100 girls. The value for the entire world population is 101 males to 100 females.

So amongst the whole population, men outnumber women, and there's now even more boys being born. Surely that means the gap is widening, not narrowing?

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But some time in the future women will outnumber men in nearly every place.

Based on what? I can't see any evidence that looks like it's going to happen. Even if it does, it will only be slight (We're certainly not going to see anything as big as 120 women for every 100 men, because of the natural corrections of the population based on Fisher's principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%27s_principle)

The Quran might say things like humans are getting smaller and women are going to start outnumbering men, but we can see clear as day that the exact opposite is happening. If God wrote the Quran, God's wrong.

The Qur'an doesn't say anything about the humans getting smaller. And women outnumbering men is a sign of Judgment Day. Meaning, not now. And this sign is probably going to be linked with a (possible) third World War. Since there are more male soldiers, that will create gender imbalance. But this is only supposition on how it could happen. Besides, as China and India develop and become modern, they will stop killing their daughters and we will see the same trend as in every other developed country. Females outnumbering males.

 

[BlueStar]

The Qur'an doesn't say anything about the humans getting smaller.

My mistake, it's the Sahih al-Bukhari

The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam in his complete shape and form (directly), sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), "Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'walaikum salam (And upon you be peace). The Prophet added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and form of Adam. People have been decreasing in stature since Adam`s creation."

People aren't just saying that the gender ratio is going to flip at some unknown point in the future because a magic book says so, they're claiming it's happening now

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Women population in the present century is also higher than men

 

[Bloodangel]

sounds good to me... more women than men

more women to go around... 2 each or maybe 3

... i dont mind more women than men

 

[bsfmtl123]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio

The CIA estimates that the current world wide sex ratio at birth is 107 boys to 100 girls. The value for the entire world population is 101 males to 100 females.

So amongst the whole population, men outnumber women, and there's now even more boys being born. Surely that means the gap is widening, not narrowing?

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But some time in the future women will outnumber men in nearly every place.

Based on what? I can't see any evidence that looks like it's going to happen. Even if it does, it will only be slight (We're certainly not going to see anything as big as 120 women for every 100 men, because of the natural corrections of the population based on Fisher's principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%27s_principle)

The Quran might say things like humans are getting smaller and women are going to start outnumbering men, but we can see clear as day that the exact opposite is happening. If God wrote the Quran, God's wrong.

The gap is surely widening in some countries but to a limited extend.In countries like India as the development and education will progress people won't mind having daughters......so the number of women in such countries is bound to grow(as pointed out by Pyrmon24).
One Hadith also states that there will a major war between two communities before Doomsday.....who knows that this might be a reason for the decrease in male population.

 

[BlueStar]

Even if all prejudice against female babies is removed, you're still only going to get to about a 1:1 ratio, so you need to stop looking for signs of it occurring now and just keep hoping for the bloody war god has promised you.

 

[bsfmtl123]

Even if all prejudice against female babies is removed, you're still only going to get to about a 1:1 ratio, so you need to stop looking for signs of it occurring now and just keep hoping for the bloody war god has promised you.

I am not waiting for any bloody war....why would I want bloodshed,human suffering and casualties.
I am a Muslim and I believe in Allah and Muhammad(S.A.W)....so whatever he said must be true..............don't forget many of his prophesies have already become a reality.We will see about that female and male ratio thing.

 

[Tanas]

Some of what is said in this video has already been shown to be true in this thread, but I think the part where he says that all rapes committed in Oslo were done by Muslims is false.
[youtube]377kKBi6anQ[/youtube]



@bsfmtl123, any chance you can tell which prophesies you're referring to?, and please try not to quote warped interpretations of Quran versus that suit your facts.

 

[NeSchn]

Here's my theory: See you all on December 22, 2012!

I like this guy.


But personally, I have my own beliefs and I don't state them because I know it only causes trouble. But I'll just say, I don't believe any of this.

 

[Magmorph]

You can call it "misleading or play on words" but there are certain circumstances including the consent of the first wife.
Women population much higher than men(one reason),that is why Quran ALLOWS(but does not order) four marriages.
The female population is certainly not greater than the male population. For your argument to make sense the female population would have to be 4 times that of the male population.

Not the Prophet but Only Allah has the authority to change any rule in the Quran.Women population in the present century is also higher than men in some places..................Allah created every rule in the Quran for a purpose.....It might be possible that you may not be able to find any reason for it now but later u will be.
The Qur'an was a direct result of a prophet. Allah was not the creator of the Qur'an, man was.

Yes but there are some bodily and physical differences between them.For example:Women have big breasts but men don't.
There are men who have bigger breasts than women and women who have almost no breasts at all. I don't see how it makes a difference.

Can you please explain the concept of Abrahamic God?
If God appeares before you.......it means that He existed then don't you think that He would have far more knowledge and power than you do.
It wouldn't mean anything. You could be strung out on shrooms or have a psychological disorder.

He is he One Who created a small cell to big planets such as earth which obviously you can't do.
Can you prove I didn't create everything?

Which evidence?Please do post them.
It really doesn't matter. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
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Slapped for what....do you have the right to slap me???
If a man is married to a women and he provides her everything of which she is in need of.He treats her with respect.kindness and love still then if the women refuses to comply with her husband

This is such a backwards way of thinking. Men have no control over their actions it is all women forcing us to become rapists.
If a woman commits adultery is it the fault of her husband?
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...........what if the men refused to have sex with his wife.....how would you view it now.

I wouldn't view it any differently because I don't have a prejudice against someone because of their sex.
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Slaves weren't like pets or video games as you have quoted them.Slaves weren't those who were treated like servants or tools which were to be used at any time.You really need to re-read the entire Islamic History or I guess your memory is weak.

So that makes it justified to own another human?

 

[bsfmtl123]

Some of what is said in this video has already been shown to be true in this thread, but I think the part where he says that all rapes committed in Oslo were done by Muslims is false.
[youtube]377kKBi6anQ[/youtube]



@bsfmtl123, any chance you can tell which prophesies you're referring to?, and please try not to quote warped interpretations of Quran versus that suit your facts.

What has been shown true in this thread?Please point out.
The prophesies I am talking about have been posted on the first page...........if you don't mind bother reading it.
I don't believe in this utter rubbish..........Islamic Cultural Terrorism......

 

[Tanas]

Some of what is said in this video has already been shown to be true in this thread, but I think the part where he says that all rapes committed in Oslo were done by Muslims is false.


@bsfmtl123, any chance you can tell which prophesies you're referring to?, and please try not to quote warped interpretations of Quran versus that suit your facts.

What has been shown true in this thread?Please point out.
The prophesies I am talking about have been posted on the first page...........if you don't mind bother reading it.
I don't believe in this utter rubbish..........Islamic Cultural Terrorism......

You have shown that you agree that [censored] and slavery is acceptable and that women are inferior to men.

And these facts are not total rubbish.
Cultural Terrorism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/internat...pe/03dutch.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20003151-504083.html
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=33188
Http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2542873.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1413995/10...in-Nigeria.html
And the list goes on and on.

I suppose that you dont agree with a sing word these woman are saying either?
[youtube]ouztv-tRPKM[/youtube]

 

[Holified 2x]

Power went off on are street and radios stop working for 5 hours a couple weeks ago me and my friend thought it was the end the world ! Turn out be a car accident

 

[Jakob95]

Some of what is said in this video has already been shown to be true in this thread, but I think the part where he says that all rapes committed in Oslo were done by Muslims is false.
[youtube]377kKBi6anQ[/youtube]



@bsfmtl123, any chance you can tell which prophesies you're referring to?, and please try not to quote warped interpretations of Quran versus that suit your facts.

What has been shown true in this thread?Please point out.
The prophesies I am talking about have been posted on the first page...........if you don't mind bother reading it.
I don't believe in this utter rubbish..........Islamic Cultural Terrorism......

From this video I now want all the Muslims to live in their own countries. Their plan right now is to concern France and then concern Europe.

 

[bsfmtl123]

Some of what is said in this video has already been shown to be true in this thread, but I think the part where he says that all rapes committed in Oslo were done by Muslims is false.


@bsfmtl123, any chance you can tell which prophesies you're referring to?, and please try not to quote warped interpretations of Quran versus that suit your facts.

What has been shown true in this thread?Please point out.
The prophesies I am talking about have been posted on the first page...........if you don't mind bother reading it.
I don't believe in this utter rubbish..........Islamic Cultural Terrorism......

You have shown that you agree that [censored] and slavery is acceptable and that women are inferior to men.

And these facts are not total rubbish.
Cultural Terrorism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/internat...pe/03dutch.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20003151-504083.html
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=33188
Http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2542873.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1413995/10...in-Nigeria.html
And the list goes on and on.

I suppose that you dont agree with a sing word these woman are saying either?
[youtube]ouztv-tRPKM[/youtube]

I never said that [censored] is acceptable.

and as far as slavery is concerned that has been abolished,Islam caused it.
When the whole world was lost in the wilderness of slavery,Islam gave slaves a new height and elevated their position in the society.Then slowly and gradually every city and country abolished it.
Here have a look at it:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/equality.htm

 

[BlueStar]

Even if all prejudice against female babies is removed, you're still only going to get to about a 1:1 ratio, so you need to stop looking for signs of it occurring now and just keep hoping for the bloody war god has promised you.

I am not waiting for any bloody war....why would I want bloodshed,human suffering and casualties.
I am a Muslim and I believe in Allah and Muhammad(S.A.W)....so whatever he said must be true..............don't forget many of his prophesies have already become a reality.We will see about that female and male ratio thing.

Well he said there was going to be such a war, everything he says comes true, so there's nothing we can do about it. It created man knowing this would happen and is complicit. Same with the Biblical God's predictions of sin and the wrath he will carry out in revenge.

 

[Aeter]

From this video I now want all the Muslims to live in their own countries. Their plan right now is to concern France and then concern Europe.

Yes, they are very compassionate about France and Europe.

But in all seriousness, you really think they are able to conquer France let alone Europe?
Most European countries have had it up to here with the tolerance against the muslims and right winged parties are growing all over Europe.
Didn't you here about the ban on burqas in France?

 

[Pyrmon]

And these facts are not total rubbish.
Cultural Terrorism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/03/internat...pe/03dutch.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20003151-504083.html
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=33188
Http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2542873.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1413995/10...in-Nigeria.html
And the list goes on and on.

I suppose that you dont agree with a sing word these woman are saying either?
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You seem to not be able to make the distinction between an Arab and a Muslim. A Muslim has no right to hurt another living being. Some Arabs do not respect these obligations and are, thus, not real Muslims.

As for wife-beating, it is, again, something the Arabs and many Westerners do. They aren't necessarily Muslim. A couple of true believing Muslims would never get to the point of beating. They would simply divorce or come to an agreement.

From this video I now want all the Muslims to live in their own countries. Their plan right now is to concern France and then concern Europe.
Stop trying to start a flame-war. It just makes you look like an ass. I would very much like it if you didn't post again in this thread.
Like a lot of people in this thread, you don't seem to make a difference between an Arab and a Muslim.
What about the Americans who convert to Islam, like me?

I'll re-post my reply to Trolley_Dave:

Sorry, I just find that really hard to believe - no offence. I understand what you're saying about trying to give me a Muslim's point of view but this isn't the first time I've discussed/debated Islam. There have been plenty of people I've met who can give a Muslim's point of view but those people have actually also understood where criticism of Islam is necessary. Whereas you have always outright refused to criticise it. Your stance on slavery in Islam is a good example. I'm not going to call you an outright liar as that would be unjust and I have little more than a gut instinct to go on but my personal opinion is that you're being liberal with the truth when you say you're newly converted. I don't think you converted in the last few weeks though. Like I say, I think you were a Muslim long before you made those statements claiming you weren't.
I've been on the fence about converting for a few months now. And I've regarded Islam as the best(least bad) religion for even longer. I guess that explains why you think I was Muslim. Maybe I was a Muslim deep down inside, I don't know. All I know is that I have only officially converted in the last few weeks. And to give the proper point of view of a Muslim, I had to say something about the criticism. No?

Again, this is not true. Muslim have been free to marry up to four wives since the introduction of the ruling. Yes there are certain restrictions, but it most definitely is not an "emergency measure". The restrictions are that the husband must be able to be just to each of his wives and give them all equal share of his time, wealth and care.

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.ph...Id&Id=82971

Again, Muslims(particularly Arab Muslims) don't always do things they should. And add to the restrictions the verse saying that it is impossible for a man to be just towards several wives. Thus prohibiting Polygamy unless the circumstances call for it.

QUOTE(TrolleyDave @ Jun 13 2011, 08:44 PM)

Sunni and Shi'a basically claim the same the same thing. A Sunni believes his is the true Islam and Shi'as and Qu'ranists are sects (and don't even get me started on what they think of Ahmadiyyas and Sufis! lol). Every person who follows a religion or a particular sect of a religion believe they're following the one true version. If they didn't then religions wouldn't be so splintered by sects.

Well, then, lets use only the Qur'an and no Hadith from now on. A least, when replying to me.


QUOTE(TrolleyDave @ Jun 13 2011, 08:44 PM)

Like I say, it doesn't matter to me in the slightest how slaves were treated. Just the fact that they are slaves means they are being treated inhumanely. Say it with me - "The Qu'ran is wrong for promoting slavery as ok"!

Slavery should never ever be considered ok in any circumstances. Anyone who thinks that it can be justified even in the slightest needs to take a long hard look at themselves and the morals they have. I know you agree that slavery is immoral, which is a very good start, but you still attempt to justify Muslims owning slaves which is wrong. I don't think you're a bad guy, in fact I think your morals surpass those of your religion - I just think you have a problem questioning the morals of your religion because of your faith in it.

I can't find a verse that promotes slavery for the life of me. Please, just give me the verse.
I never justified anyone having slaves. I'm just saying that, at least, slaves are well treated until they are freed. And war prisoners are to be freed, as this link says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_war_in_Islam

 

[Magmorph]

You seem to not be able to make the distinction between an Arab and a Muslim. A Muslim has no right to hurt another living being. Some Arabs do not respect these obligations and are, thus, not real Muslims.

As for wife-beating, it is, again, something the Arabs and many Westerners do. They aren't necessarily Muslim. A couple of true believing Muslims would never get to the point of beating. They would simply divorce or come to an agreement.

I don't understand how you classify someone as a real Muslim. What makes your view of a Muslim any more valid than someone else's? I'm sure there are people who wouldn't classify you as being a real Muslim.