Fusee Gelee is a type of hardmod, you cannot boot into it without shorting pin 10 which is a type of hardware modification. Even using AutoRCM doesn't count as much because you cannot install AutoRCM without inducing RCM at least once via a hardmod.
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"Privately". Unless the reason is that it can brick the console then that's what I call selfish and not giving to the community. By the time they release anything for up to 4.1.0 I bet mostly everyone will be above that.
I'm on 4.1.0 and the doubt that anything will be released soon with the upcoming game line up at the end of the year means I won't be benefiting from whatever is planned. Might even buy SX OS if Atmosphère is lackluster and can't do what SX OS does in time for Smash and Pokémon. Really would like some sort of softmod but I guess it's becoming more benificial to update at this given time.
Keeping it private, because it is not know by nintendo is also selfish? If you see it like this, find your own exploit. You can be happy that there is someone who is willing to share to the comunity anything.
"Some random guy is not willing to share his exploit. He is so selfish, that he is not releasing his own private work to the public."
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One of the reasons it's private is because the exploit chain still works in part on the latest version, and people want to use it to explore Mariko units that probably won't be vulnerable to RCM attacks. Given the availability of RCM payloads on all systems currently, there's literally no reason to consume this exploit chain now.
In other words, you're basically asking for a slightly more convenient exploit in exchange for stifling progress on Mariko units. This is what's in the best interest of the community.
Didn't know Nintendo wasn't aware but the fact it's for older firmwares I'm kind of lost on why it has been kept private, I mean unless, of course, it works on the latest firmware too... Lacius never said why its not been released to the public just that there are "various reasons". I do think it's selfish to keep things from the community, unless the reason is like you said and can be sorted by Nintendo but hasn't, yet.
Yeah, that makes sense and is a pretty viable reason. I'd rather the newer units are exploited too, not that they will have any advantage over the current ones from what I can imagine. I just wish more progress would happen I mean, at least in the next few months before the end of the year so I don't end up missing out.
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Would be interesting to see what TX has for Mariko, if anything. Their word that SX OS works on all Switches will be debunked once those units hit the market. Who knows, maybe they've got their version of Deja Vu in store for us.
Actually no it's not... A hardware mod is making a physical change to the devices hardware. You do not have to make a physical change to the device to use RCM you can simply short the pin with whatever metal object you wish and done. No need to physically attach any new device or modify the existing hardware. It is a software mod plain and simple. While there are hardware mods one can do to make using RCM easy it doesn't require a hard mod.
Also a tethered jailbreak has never been considered a hard mod in any scene thus far so why would this be any different.
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You're saying that rerouting the electricity from either pins 1 or 7 into pin 10 is not a hardware modification but a software modification? That type of current does not normally flow like that. And it is manipulated with a piece of hardware (whether its a jig, paperclip, or tin foil). Permanent installation doesn't denote hardmods, hardmods can be temporary. And there are no purely software based methods of inducing RCM, AutoRCM requires the device to already be in RCM to be installed.
Can't say wether a softmod will come later this year. However even with it, their is pretty much zero chance of a coldboot softmod either this year of the following year, so you won't exactly be saving a large amount of time.
Considering most of t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ code is just repurposed from Atmosphère I'd be amazed if they had anything prepared for the hardware revision. Do any of us really know what's round the corner in terms of a hardware revision Nintendo might even be holding back to see what the community does to try to prevent anything else possible before rolling the new consoles out.
You don't modify the hardware by shortening a pin. If you don't modify hardware its no hardmod. Shortening this pins is the same as pressing a button
Exactly. This changes just one bit of the inputs. The software reads this bit and then behaves like programmed. It is the same as pushing a button or setting a jumper. No modification of hardware, just using it as intended
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You have to because no hardware is modified
But to reach that point, you have to introduce something foreign to the Switch because current does not normally flow between those pins in the first place. Inserting a jig is definitely nowhere near the level of hardware manipulation as a modchip, but it doesn't qualify as a softmod either.
Not at all I'm saying it doesn't require a hardware mod to do it. Shorting a pin with a wire or paper clip is not a hardware mod. Seriously how hard is it to understand the difference between shoving a wire into something and soldering a wire into something. A hardmod is a physical change to the existing hardware. Shorting a pin with a wire without even opening the device is not a physical change to the hardware.
Because what you're saying is that introducing the wire or paperclip doesn't count as hardware. They certainly are not a part of the Switch's hardware and must be introduced externally. The end effect is software based but cannot be achieved without a physical item being introduced which does not originally belong to the Switch.
introducing the wire or paperclip doesn't count as modifying hardware.
Would you call using a jumper a hardmod? Would you call pushing a button a hardmod? Of course not. This is exactly the same.
Yes? Its temporary and external, but that wire is not a part of the car and must be introduced from outside of the car's hardware. It would be silly to call the jumper a softmod. If you want to invent a new category for external, temporary hardmods that are not softmods either, by all means be my guest
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