Thoughts on multiple genders

[gnmmarechal]

Male and female. That's all, in my opinion. Anyone who is born as a male is a male, anyone who is born as a female is a female. Those who are born with mutations, too, are either one or the other, and regardless of that, they're the result of biological errors, and as such cannot be considered a third gender.


I don't care what people call themselves, though, that's their problem, not mine, and I have no right to go and argue with people who call themselves whatever, as that has no benefit for anyone, and will only result in pointless discussion.

 

[LichbannMejolaro]

That has nothing to do with your gender.

Oh, I was confusing gender with sexual orientation. Nothing for me here then.

 

[WeedZ]

Actually, it's the same in France. But chair and table are both female Verbs only get gendered (besides he/she, and 'it' doesnt exist) in some weird circumstances. French is really one of the most bullshit languages on earth.

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Actually, it depends on your def' of gender.

We have a unified consensus of words and their meanings. Its called a dictionary. Ill admit that words are constructs of society that are subjective, but we agree upon them for stability. If we all have our own "meaning" for words, then language breaksdown and then total chaos. If gender is to refer to a person's identity instead of biological sex, then it needs to be agreed upon (which I think it has). But this "gunna change the meaning of words and invent new genders to be special" and "by my definition of.." stuff is killing me.

 

[Hayleia]

Are we comparing languages now? OK, my turn again.

Yes we are, at least this is less controversial

Every single noun is gendered. (Table is male, chair is female.)

Verbs change their last letter based of the gender of the subject in the sentence.

"I" and "me" are gendered as well. (Male and female forms)

Ok you win lol. French has the first drawback you listed but not the other two (verbs can sometimes change a letter according to the gender of the subject, depending on the tense, but in general they don't).

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

We have a unified consensus of words and their meanings. Its called a dictionary. Ill admit that words are constructs of society that are subjective, but we agree upon them for stability. If we all have our own "meaning" for words, then language breaksdown and then total chaos. If gender is to refer to a person's identity instead of biological sex, then it needs to be agreed upon (which I think it has). But this "gunna change the meaning of words and invent new genders to be special" and "by my definition of.." stuff is killing me.

Here you go. Gender has never been only defined by the physiological aspect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

 

[Bedel]

Here you go. Gender has never been only defined by the physiological aspect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

Well in Spain we can still talk about this? I mean, this is the oficial definition of gender here:
Conjunto de seres que tienen uno o varios caracteres comunes.
What means:
Amount of beings that share one or more characteristics.

I think this is more acurate for what we are talking about, don't you agree?

 

[WeedZ]

Here you go. Gender has never been only defined by the physiological aspect.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

Are you sure, cause this came from the real world, published in 1997 from Merriam Webster. According to this it's any agreed upon difference between two classes for grammatical purposes, which prior to mid 2000s was "biological sex" hence def. 2

Either way my point still stands

 

[The Catboy]

In my opinion- I don't care what you are, as long as your go to the washrooms intended for your respective reproductive systems. And not come in my way, in the name of your 'rights'.

The issue with your statement is that's actually full of shit. First and foremost, are you going to make sure everyone using the bathroom is using the bathroom based on their birth sex or do you expect to work on some honor system? Are you going to do something like tell this man

That he needs to use the women's restroom?
The issue with your statement is that it's just as bad as "Love the sinner, hate the sin." You are basically putting on an image of being "supportive," while ignoring the problem that you are contributing to.

 

[erman1337]

Anyone who thinks that they're not either male or female has mental problems obviously

 

[Bedel]

Anyone who thinks that they're not either male or female has mental problems obviously

No, not really xD A mental dissorder does not work like you think it does if you say that.
In this case I'll just beg you kindly not to talk about what you don't understand. A mental dissorder is really serious bussiness, and it's very offensive.
Depression is a mental illness. Anxiety too. This is just a way of being them.

 

[GhostLatte]

The amount of ignorance in this thread is unbelievable. Just learn to respect others for who they are. You don't even have to accept their beliefs just be civil.

 

[coolfuze]

This is too big an issue for just a simple post but I'll try and simplify my answer as much as I can. There are two genders, if you're a guy with tits and you call yourself a female I'll call you a female too if you look like Blaire White, if you look like Riley Dennis I won't call you anything cause I will try and avoid talking to you cause I might say hey man, accidentally.

Also if you look like Blaire use the female bathrooms if you look like Riley use the guys, either way the need to be transgender is a mental disorder and identifying as whatever is the symptom not the disease. Don't try and cure the symptom because you will rarely be happy hence why suicide is so high amongst transgender people, not because someone wouldn't call you xe or ze or whatever. If you believe this is the way to be happy you have bought into the media and the politics which will chew you up and spit you out to get more votes.

You are part of the problem by trying to normalize a mental disorder. People prefer you to be honest to them, not to pander because you think it will show you're open minded. I'm open minded but I'm also brutally honest. Go see a psychologist. Get help. Learn to love yourself because a pair of breasts or facial hair won't fulfill you.

Also don't try and indoctrinate children into the mentality that they are unhappy and will only be happy once they undergo HRT, that makes you evil because children are easily manipulated, I pretended I was rambo when I was 6 that doesn't mean I wan't to get choppered and left in a jungle.

 

[Jayro]

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[VashTS]

if it has to be argued, generally speaking (this topic and any others), then its likely that its not the correct answer. there are males and there are females in the human race.

you can't identify as something else and its magically true. its based on gentials and reproductive organs and its meant to classify the species not what you mentally decide you want to be.

you want to pretend to be a piece of shit, then hello turd johnson. you want to pretend to be a woman, hi lady. i dont care.

can you birth a child? alrighty then, you are female. do you ejaculate fertilizer? then you are male.