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Trump's latest speech about Antifa taking down/vandalizing statues

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So I guess we should remove George Washington and Thomas Jefferson's monuments now too since they owned slaves and rename Washington d.c.? Leave the monuments up as a reminder of the good and bad in the past, at the very least preserve them. Removing them still isn't going to change what they did, plus they serve a reminder of what is morally right and wrong.
Holy SHIT I hate this false equivalence. It needs to stop being circulated, Because I'm tired of mindless drones parroting the exact. same. thing.

YES, the founding fathers owned slaves. This is something that is often overlooked. However, they also drafted and finalized the very foundation that our country stands on now.

The Confederate leaders, on the other hand, rebelled against our country to specifically fight alongside an establishment built on the idea that whites are superior to blacks. They are traitors to our country, and the only place they have in our history is in museums and textbooks, not monuments and memorials
 
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I'm not a Hillary supporealrter you righty simpleton.

Are YOU mad you lost the civil war and your participation trophies are being taken down? Lololol

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I'm all for peace. I hate violence. Guess that makes me a snowflake that I don't like to see people get hurt or DIE, but whatever.

If everyone remembers correctly, some white dude punched MLK Jr. in the face while he was approaching his podium. All Dr said to him was "you shall be forgiven" or something of the sorts. I'd beat the fuck outta him. I'll give him a nice Richard Spencer across the face, kek!

Are you offended because i'm saying what i think about leftist like you?
 

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Robert E. Lee was a general in the Civil War, yeah, and though his participation in that conflict was his most remembered achievement in life, he was also integral to the Mexican-American war. Where, yknow, he worked together with Ulysses S Grant to win near impossible battles to defend our country? And after surrendering to the Union, and telling his soldiers to accept defeat peacibly, though I'm sure with much resentment, he ended up being working for a southern college, where he helped implement engineering and journalism, which had heavy impact to schooling in that area?

I'm not saying that the guy was perfect, he wanted slaves. He was on the wrong side of history. But the civil war was not the only thing he took part in, and it's not the only thing that most Southerners/Texans remember him for. Many of the other important soldiers that fought in the civil war also had many other achievements to their name. Should we have had straight-up statues to confederate-only soldiers? Maybe not. Should leftists be putting all their focus to screaming at these statues? Probably not. There's bigger fish to fry. Like getting the heck rid of Soros/Stopping Antifa/Focusing on literally anything else.

Edit: To further add, southern pride is a big thing. My ancestors fought for the Union, and housed slaves. I have no familial blood that goes back to the south. But being born in Texas, I have a huge sense of pride to this state. Tearing down statues of anything related to Texas' freedom is a big no-no around here.
 
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*sigh* I don't trust politicians for a reason, and Trump is one the best examples of that. everything he says, every move he makes, is carefully planned to enhance his "tough love" and "I didn't want to be president, but someone has to" image. and your average Joe six pack, who doesn't know a thing from behind his TV or Facebook screen laps it up. hell I saw this completely ridiculous article on social media a few days ago, where a preacher claimed a man he knew made a prophecy 40 years ago that "Trump will lead America back to God" complete bullshit of course. all there was to it was a youtube video about a guy talking about it, no proof whatsoever....and the idiots in the comment section were lapping it up.
 
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I'd also like to remind everyone that the local government of Charlottesville decided they would take this statue down ages ago

And yet, those who are opposed to the removal of Confederate statues/monuments are nothing but ass clowns about the entire thing. as usual.
 

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Robert E. Lee was a general in the Civil War, yeah, and though his participation in that conflict was his most remembered achievement in life, he was also integral to the Mexican-American war. Where, yknow, he worked together with Ulysses S Grant to win near impossible battles to defend our country? And after surrendering to the Union, and telling his soldiers to accept defeat peacibly, though I'm sure with much resentment, he ended up being working for a southern college, where he helped implement engineering and journalism, which had heavy impact to schooling in that area?

I'm not saying that the guy was perfect, he wanted slaves. He was on the wrong side of history. But the civil war was not the only thing he took part in, and it's not the only thing that most Southerners/Texans remember him for. Many of the other important soldiers that fought in the civil war also had many other achievements to their name. Should we have had straight-up statues to confederate-only soldiers? Maybe not. Should leftists be putting all their focus to screaming at these statues? Probably not. There's bigger fish to fry. Like getting the heck rid of Soros/Stopping Antifa/Focusing on literally anything else.

Edit: To further add, southern pride is a big thing. My ancestors fought for the Union, and housed slaves. I have no familial blood that goes back to the south. But being born in Texas, I have a huge sense of pride to this state. Tearing down statues of anything related to Texas' freedom is a big no-no around here.
Lee and Grant were also in the same class at West Point!
 

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I'd argue we're the ones who actually pay attention to history the most. We just don't want the worst parts of our history being worshipped and immortalized in a grandiose fashion in the current era
the winners write history, not the losers. they use the crimes and atrocities of their opponents to justify their own.
 

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