Hacking TrustZoneHax on 3.x and below

[methamz]

Thanks, I saw that Im at 4.0.1 unfortunately. Should I update or is it good to be stay at 4.0.1? There is hope for 4.x?

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

Thanks, I saw that Im at 4.0.1 unfortunately. Should I update or is it good to be stay at 4.0.1? There is hope for 4.x?

well hackers are probably looking for one right now since 4.x are going to be the only firmware's with no kernel or trust zone access now.

 

[subcon959]

Thanks, I saw that Im at 4.0.1 unfortunately. Should I update or is it good to be stay at 4.0.1? There is hope for 4.x?

There is hope for every firmware, it's all a matter of how patient you are. There will always be people saying it's never gonna happen but for all we know the golden firmware for the Switch ends up being 8.1 or something.

If piracy is important to you then wait for the TX modchip.

 

[darcangel]

I've read everything about it,
I got really curious how did Nintendo patched it in 4.0?

 

[8BitWonder]

I've read everything about it,
I got really curious how did Nintendo patched it in 4.0?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe the TrustZone exploit used between 2.X-3.X isn't known for sure to be patched on 4.X (So maybe it works, maybe it doesn't). Since it relies on kernel, and the kernel bug was fixed in 4.X.

 

[Sephirosu]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe the TrustZone exploit used between 2.X-3.X isn't known for sure to be patched on 4.X (So maybe it works, maybe it doesn't). Since it relies on kernel, and the kernel bug was fixed in 4.X.

From my limited understanding, the backdoor hax for 2-3.x works on 4.x as well but since a memory controller was patched it's harder to get into TZ. Again that's my understanding on the 4.x situation. Could be wrong.

 

[delete12345]

Maybe is better to have 2, one for hax and on for playing?

It's always better to have 2.

 

[simbin]

It's always better to have 2.

it takes two to make a thing go right

 

[theMille]

it takes two to make a thing go right

Is that why I curve left? #foreveralone

 

[g00s3y]

Maybe is better to have 2, one for hax and on for playing?

I already have my own. But I'm not buying games twice just so he can play at the same time.

And the Wii u is much cheaper to fix in case he breaks anything, lol.

 

[Stellar]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe the TrustZone exploit used between 2.X-3.X isn't known for sure to be patched on 4.X (So maybe it works, maybe it doesn't). Since it relies on kernel, and the kernel bug was fixed in 4.X.

 

[8BitWonder]

Alrighty cool, thanks.

 

[Deleted User]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't even bother targeting the kernel, since TrustZone gives them access to everything.

 

[Deleted User]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't even bother targeting the kernel, since TrustZone gives them access to everything.

 

[Deleted-355425]

I’m still not updating from 2.2 too 3.0 with my pokken game until last minute.

 

[SpaceMonkeh]

Super excited about this! Although my Switch was 3.0.2 out of the box :s

 

[Soluble]

After a 4 hour Odyssey session last night. I'm quite happy to be on 3.0.2. Game is awesome. Pretty sure it(and mk8) will keep me entertained long enough to wait for homebrew.

While 1.0 may get it first, followed by 2.x and onto 3.0 then 3.x, by the time that comes around there should be some good developments

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't even bother targeting the kernel, since TrustZone gives them access to everything.

They need kernel access to get to TrustZone. Think of swtich hacking like a ladder, the first ladder step is userland homebrew, the second ladder step is kernel access, the third ladder step is the trustzone. When Nintendo made 4.0, they effectively sawed off the kernel ladder step, leaving a gaping hole in our ladder. This means that that the trustzome ladder step is still there, but we have no way to get to it since we first hsve no way to get through the hole in the middle of the ladder.

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Super excited about this! Although my Switch was 3.0.2 out of the box :s

This seems like it work on 3.0.2, just hang on tight without updating.

 

[Jiro2]

If we don't know if Trustzone can be hacked on 4.x, they really shouldn't release the hack for 2.x-3.x. Because if it exists on 4.x, once it's released Nintendo will patch it--and Nintendo doesn't need to find an entry point first before they can do that.

 

[snoofly]

They need kernel access to get to TrustZone. Think of swtich hacking like a ladder, the first ladder step is userland homebrew, the second ladder step is kernel access, the third ladder step is the trustzone. When Nintendo made 4.0, they effectively sawed off the kernel ladder step, leaving a gaping hole in our ladder. This means that that the trustzome ladder step is still there, but we have no way to get to it since we first hsve no way to get through the hole in the middle of the ladder.

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This seems like it work on 3.0.2, just hang on tight without updating.

Nice analogy.

People should simply check out the pyramid diagram in the 34c3 slides to understand the basic levels of security and how exploiting one can lead to another.

 

[Deleted member 381889]

If we don't know if Trustzone can be hacked on 4.x, they really shouldn't release the hack for 2.x-3.x. Because if it exists on 4.x, once it's released Nintendo will patch it--and Nintendo doesn't need to find an entry point first before they can do that.

TrustZoneHax isn't toing to be released anytime soon lol
Also it does work on 4.x, just there are a few complications stopping it working(?).