You really need to read dude. It says he cannot exchange them (the wives) but he can exchange sex slaves for others but cannot gain anymore.
If you can't prove this claim with tafsir or hadeeth, you're just full of it.
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You really need to read dude. It says he cannot exchange them (the wives) but he can exchange sex slaves for others but cannot gain anymore.
If you can't prove this claim with tafsir or hadeeth, you're just full of it.
So does the word mean terror or not?
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I only know that the Arabic says "and not... and not". So I'm not an authority on that at all.
So do you know that he didn't have more slave girls after the revelation of this verse?
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It's a grammatical technicality. Thanks for pointing it out. It could refer to the whole part before it ("neither nor").
I only know that the Arabic says "and not... and not". So I'm not an authority on that at all.
So do you know that he didn't have more slave girls after the revelation of this verse?
He only had one more I believe and she was a gift from a Christian Coptic. To not accept her would be to disrespect a group of people.
Does what word mean terror or not?
We're done with the Quran chat. Let now come to the Bible corruption.
How about Deuteronomy 17:
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Or Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be
Which of these verses your idol hitler used to kill millions of jews?
8:17 is rather interesting.... Thanks for pointing that out.
Why does Allah have to tell them, that they did not kill the enemy? "you have not killed them"...hmmm...
If they physically did not kill them they would know that... That leaves only one explanation: Allah killed the enemy THROUGH them.
Rather strange, that an almighty being needs the hands of us poor mortals to do his mighty deeds...
Also the Qoran offers a rather nice way of absolving one from guilt in that way.
Why does Allah have to tell them, that they did not kill the enemy? "you have not killed them"...hmmm...
If they physically did not kill them they would know that... That leaves only one explanation: Allah killed the enemy THROUGH them.
Rather strange, that an almighty being needs the hands of us poor mortals to do his mighty deeds...
Also the Qoran offers a rather nice way of absolving one from guilt in that way.
We're done with the Quran chat. Let now come to the Bible corruption.
How about Deuteronomy 17:
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Or Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be
Which of these verses your idol hitler used to kill millions of jews?
@Haider Raza: Hitler is not my idol :-)
And yes the OLD Testament of the bible contains many archaiv, racist and bloody commands to kill other people. And I'm really behind the idea to ban that book too (or at least the OLD, the one before Jesus)
And I will fight all the Believers of this book with my whole heart and denounce them as dangerous fanatics and idiots.... as soon as they begin to make suicide attacks on children in the name of Jesus
Regards,
Kirky
And yes the OLD Testament of the bible contains many archaiv, racist and bloody commands to kill other people. And I'm really behind the idea to ban that book too (or at least the OLD, the one before Jesus)
And I will fight all the Believers of this book with my whole heart and denounce them as dangerous fanatics and idiots.... as soon as they begin to make suicide attacks on children in the name of Jesus
Regards,
Kirky
Why would god kill them?
If he's asking followers to prove their faith, why would HE fight? That's just irrational.
As for 8:17, "8:17 And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing."
God is saying that by them fighting he is standing alongside them and if they were to kill the disbelievers it was as if God himself killed them. It's making comparisons.
Not trying to support Haider, cause he's a whackjob, but didn't Robert Dear shoot up a Planned Parenthood in the name of Christianity?
Hitler is not your idol? What a joke! A german saying hitler is not his idol...? (A lie I guess) Also ISIS is not there yet ISIS is 90% low at innocent killing then Hitler. So my point was what verse of the Bible did hitler used to kill Millions of Jews?
Christianity had a pretty violent past.
Found a pretty interesting Quora post:
https://www.quora.com/Which-religio...of-deaths-of-infidels-over-its-entire-history
Sorry for asking I found myself. Here you should also learn http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
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You are a joke, piece of shit.
You got no idea about people and life in Germany, you extremist nonsense vomiting machine.
How the fuck you get the idea that an average German will have that kind of idolatry, for the sake of whatever the fuck you believe in, come out of your bottle.
And you have the face to call others ignorants, go fuck yourself.
BR, SarkW.
I'm tempted to unignore him just to see the bullshit he's spewing, by the sounds of it, it's just magnificent.
Learn http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm don't ignore history. Don'y ignore the killing of innocent jews by christianity (Using Corrupted Bible).
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@TheDarkGreninja: That was not my interpretation, that God killed them! (I am fully aware that God/Allah cannot kill anything)
Please read the above from Haider Raza:
"When we read the verses before and after, we get a clear picture that this was a battle. The killing that is mentioned in Q. 8:12 is on the battlefield, which took place 1400 years ago. When we read Q. 8:17 it says, that it was not Muhammed (or his companions) who killed the enemy, but it was Him (God) who had done so. Furthermore, Q 8:19 offers peace to the enemy, if the enemy desist from hostilities against Muslims,"
Regards,
Kirky
Please read the above from Haider Raza:
"When we read the verses before and after, we get a clear picture that this was a battle. The killing that is mentioned in Q. 8:12 is on the battlefield, which took place 1400 years ago. When we read Q. 8:17 it says, that it was not Muhammed (or his companions) who killed the enemy, but it was Him (God) who had done so. Furthermore, Q 8:19 offers peace to the enemy, if the enemy desist from hostilities against Muslims,"
Regards,
Kirky
Now debate is about hitler why ignoring that? We already explained too much now it's your time to explain. It will be fair right?
Fuck you, don't ignore history and today.
You are the least appropriate person to call Germans not to ignore history.
It is not Japan here, Germans have never turned their sight from history, never avoided carrying responsibility and learning not to repeat history.
For the sake of god, don't ignore the present, you brick of shit.
Stop idolising Christianity on your own and putting your words on my mouth as if it represented me.
You are more Christian than I am, to begin with.
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https://discover-the-truth.com/2014...o-disbelieve-therefore-strike-off-their-heads
Lets now have debate about hilter right?
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