New California

[TotalInsanity4]

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Ah, I see. That makes more sense lol

For context, I saw this earlier in an article but the picture wouldn't load properly, so I couldn't really tell which side represented which

 

[Deleted User]

It's almost like the electoral college is piping fresh bullshit that parties only like when it's convenient

Wait, what? This isn't something that is decided by the electoral college. The electoral college was put in to prevent large corporations from buying out voters, and it probably won't be abolished for a long time, so what they want makes sense, but they most likely won't get it.

Actually, they want it kind of like how West Virginia was with slavery. And it might actually be granted if they present a good enough case.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Also this just takes gerrymandering to a whole new, totally ridiculous level

 

[Deleted User]

Ah, I see. That makes more sense lol

For context, I saw this earlier in an article but the picture wouldn't load properly, so I couldn't really tell which side represented which

No problem. Yeah, the whole purpose is to divide the state on political boundaries, so if they were to keep the costal side that, well might be a problem...

 

[Kioku]

Wait, what? This isn't something that is decided by the electoral college. The electoral college was put in to prevent large corporations from buying out voters, and it probably won't be abolished for a long time, so what they want makes sense, but they most likely won't get it.

Actually, they want it kind of like how West Virginia was with slavery. And it might actually be granted if they present a good enough case.

Given the current political state, it might even go through. :|

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Wait, what? This isn't something that is decided by the electoral college. The electoral college was put in to prevent large corporations from buying out voters, and it probably won't be abolished for a long time, so what they want makes sense, but they most likely won't get it.

Actually, they want it kind of like how West Virginia was with slavery. And it might actually be granted if they present a good enough case.

Sure it does, the electorate decides votes based on congressional district. It doesnt matter how many votes there are overall as long as the lines are drawn correctly

 

[Deleted User]

Given the current political state, it might even go through. :|

They'd get yosemite, which is the only part of California worth visiting at this point in time so idk.

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Sure it does, the electorate decides votes based on congressional district. It doesnt matter how many votes there are overall as long as the lines are drawn correctly

I mean in the case of secession. They aren't deciding whether or not New Cali secedes from Old Cali.

The funny part about this is that just a few weeks ago I helped my nephew with a map regarding how he would divide the country if it needed to be divided based on religious, ethnic, and political lines, and we separated half of california into "New Cali". Wish I had a picture :|

 

[Deleted User]

Just about zero. I live in California and if they get what they want I'd be living right by the border which doesn't sound fun. I feel like it'd be too much work, time, and effort for it to have any chance to take off or succeed in any way.

Actually, speaking as someone who lives near the MA/RI border, it's not as big of a hassle traveling between two states as you might think.

I haven't heard too much about this "New California" proposition, but from the sound of it, it seems pretty pointless to me.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I mean in the case of secession. They aren't deciding whether or not New Cali secedes from Old Cali.|

Oh, I see why you were confused. What I meant is that the reason this is even being proposed is because all of the Republicans that live in California are tired of feeling like their votes will be wasted to the electoral college, since all the lines are drawn in a way that will ALWAYS favor the liberal cities. If they made their own state, they could draw the congressional lines however they want, and make the new state overall Republican

It's a really stupid alternative to just getting rid of the electoral college altogether, but I guess we'll see how it plays out

 

[OctolingRift]

The California government is a joke. Everything gets taxed, everything is deemed as causing cancer, taxes on gas, taxes on those taxes. Yeah, what a great place to live.

I take back every bad thing I said about you. I love you and you are 100% correct here

 

[brickmii82]

Oh, I see why you were confused. What I meant is that the reason this is even being proposed is because all of the Republicans that live in California are tired of feeling like their votes will be wasted to the electoral college, since all the lines are drawn in a way that will ALWAYS favor the liberal cities. If they made their own state, they could draw the congressional lines however they want, and make the new state overall Republican

It's a really stupid alternative to just getting rid of the electoral college altogether, but I guess we'll see how it plays out

Or they could just move here to Arizona, a heavily conservative state that’s growing quickly and quite cheaper to live in....

Lots of people already have lol.

 

[gman666]

Oh god I can't even look at the news anymore... It's like people have completely lost their damn minds. The problem sounds like a problem in regards to proper representation, and that's not because of some tyrannical leader, but a problem with the public and their decisions during elections. And the leaders of this new decent don't seem to realize that the high taxes and environmental restrictions are good in the long run. Meanwhile, these asshats complain about tax increases and environmental restrictions, as well as, call a publicly elected leader "tyrannical" and they have no presentable solution to the supposed problem. Sounds like some partisan bullshit to me!

 

[Cylent1]

What do you think their chances are? I don't think the other regions would be too happy about that, but they problably would think that they are better without.

NOW? Better than ever. And I love how they plan on taking 3/4 of the state.

 

[brickmii82]

NOW? Better than ever. And I love how they plan on taking 3/4 of the state.

Hmmm.... actually I think you’re correct. With a GOP controlled Washington, the only real hurdle would be getting California’s votes. They’d still have to get both the Federal govt, and the majority votes in California to have this happen per the State admission clause in the Constitution.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admission_to_the_Union

 

[th3joker]

The California government is a joke. Everything gets taxed, everything is deemed as causing cancer, taxes on gas, taxes on those taxes. Yeah, what a great place to live.

i "lived" in cali for 3 months last year. it was hell. i flipped out at a circleK when all their prices for packs of bottled water were off by $4. why? becuase cali taxes each plastic bottle in a 20 pack. fuck cali

 

[the_randomizer]

i "lived" in cali for 3 months last year. it was hell. i flipped out at a circleK when all their prices for packs of bottled water were off by $4. why? becuase cali taxes each plastic bottle in a 20 pack. fuck cali

Yeah, my family used to live there for a while, but moved due to my dad's job being better over here. We're glad we did, the cost of living is absolute BS. Taxes for everything, even for breathing air (hyperbole). The government there needs a good purging.

 

[Futurdreamz]

Oh god I can't even look at the news anymore... It's like people have completely lost their damn minds. The problem sounds like a problem in regards to proper representation, and that's not because of some tyrannical leader, but a problem with the public and their decisions during elections. And the leaders of this new decent don't seem to realize that the high taxes and environmental restrictions are good in the long run. Meanwhile, these asshats complain about tax increases and environmental restrictions, as well as, call a publicly elected leader "tyrannical" and they have no presentable solution to the supposed problem. Sounds like some partisan bullshit to me!

largely it seems that those taxes are going straight to funding sanctuary cities, which isn't really fair. I haven't looked too closely at California politics bit it does seem to quite often completely dismiss the needs of the rural communities.

 

[Stephano]

Texas is the only one allowed to angrily yell that they don't want to be part of the USA anymore!

Seriously, leave it to Californians to be attention seeking crybabies.

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Lol but seriously, what is happening in California?

 

[weatMod]

The California government is a joke. Everything gets taxed, everything is deemed as causing cancer, taxes on gas, taxes on those taxes. Yeah, what a great place to live.

yeah it's true CA is a joke the taxes make it cost prohibitive to even exist , but they might actually be right about the cancer stuff , if not cancer i bet it is harmful in other ways
so many things that are still allowed in the US even CA are banned in EU

 

[slaphappygamer]

Wasn’t this tried already and failed? The state I live in won’t become a shithole like that. Reminds me of the yo-yo who tried to divide the ocean. That’s real crazy!