What exactly are women marching for?

[Xzi]

Benefiting white men. But what about poor men, black men, asian men, south american men, men of different races. The slaughter of Indians. Not all men had those same rights.

...That's why I said white men specifically. These races you mentioned still have to deal with systemic issues in 2018.

Lets take for example in the UK. A good chunk of males males did not get the right to vote till 1918 the same year women got the vote.

I mean that's fine, and if you want to make a case against global sexism then this is a good point to make. I was pretty sure we were discussing America in particular, though, and here women didn't get the right to vote until well after white men had it.

Before that males fought for their right to vote. In the 1832 the Great Reform Act increase 1 in 7 males the right to vote. And more reform acts through out the years till Universal male suffrage was achieved in 1918. They didn't want poor men to have the right to vote, but it was until WW1 that got them Universal Male Suffrage with the representation of peoples act. It was a similar story in other countries of voting rights not existing till 1800's and 1900's.

Not surprising, obviously democracy didn't exist for the better part of history.

Most jobs that existed today didn't exist in the early 1800's and before that. Most people were farmers. So what jobs were women being barred from?

At the time there were bigger problems, like trying to live to see the age of 30.

Harvey Weinstein did nothing wrong.

Welp, this thread has bottomed out.

 

[330]

Passive-aggressive wall-of-text rants without ever using the "enter" key

...ok?

Also you should probably link to some sources for the stuff you wrote.

blahblah live is unfair pls give me money 1% suxx0rz!!!!!111111wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Ah, I see why you have so much repressed anger now.

I mean, it took me a lot of time to understand your post. My 98-inch TV kept distracting me. I have 4 of these.


Anyway, one night stands and sex becomes boring after a while. You just want to find someone to settle down but you're afraid of these women that are never honest when it comes to rich people. Sometimes I'd rather switch my life with someone else to finally find someone that actually loves me instead of my stuff.

Well, not with you. It almost seems like you're pushing your repressed anger to compensate for something.


By the way, I donate to charities in one month more than you could ever donate in your lifetime. So quit whining.

 

[Kioku]

"I am woman, hear me ROAR!"

I mean, really, it's a pissing contest.

 

[Joe88]

Why aren't we discussing the real issue at hand

 

[Xzi]

Why aren't we discussing the real issue at hand

Okay that's fuckin' hilarious. Obviously there are people who take this stuff too far, but there are going to be people like that on the internet for any given issue. Comes back to the discussion of "safe spaces," and these exist for every group/political party now.

 

[330]

Why aren't we discussing the real issue at hand

I thought it was fake... I hoped it was fake...

Just... no.

 

[gnmmarechal]

I thought it was fake... I hoped it was fake...

Just... no.

What? It... isn't fake?

 

[330]

What? It... isn't fake?

https://thewaterpipe.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/can-a-fart-be-misogynist/

 

[Deleted User]

Why aren't we discussing the real issue at hand

I am beyond laughter at this point. I read it, laughed a lot, when I calmed down I googled it and then continued to laugh. I am crying right now this is pure gold.

 

[CallmeBerto]

https://thewaterpipe.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/can-a-fart-be-misogynist/

Hello 1st world problems.

 

[gnmmarechal]

https://thewaterpipe.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/can-a-fart-be-misogynist/

.... what

 

[SG854]

...That's why I said white men specifically. These races you mentioned still have to deal with systemic issues in 2018.


I mean that's fine, and if you want to make a case against global sexism then this is a good point to make. I was pretty sure we were discussing America in particular, though, and here women didn't get the right to vote until well after white men had it.


Not surprising, obviously democracy didn't exist for the better part of history.


At the time there were bigger problems, like trying to live to see the age of 30.




Welp, this thread has bottomed out.

Look at the civil war and the male only draft. White men were forced to fight in a war they didn't want to even after they protested. Even white males weren't always barred from laws. The only people that were able to avoid the draft were women and rich men. So in this sense rich males were equal to females. But even rich men had to buy their way out of freedom for $300 dollars to hire a substitute, a lot of money back in the day. Something males didn't do much of. A show on PBS said that the reason most males didn't hire substitutes was because women didn't allow it. They rejected men that refused to fight. (Women do have more social power than people give credit for.) And rich men that payed their way to freedom still had to provide for the war in some way and produce ammunitions and weapons for the war. The war was essential white males slaves (forced to fight by the draft) fighting to free black slaves. And women were exempt because they didn't want to see women suffer. But women did play a role along with males in shaming men to fight.

At the time there were bigger problems, like trying to live to see the age of 30.

Yes like the survival of the family which is what I said.

 

[DRAGONBALLVINTAGE]

Lets look at Bill Cosby

why would they wait years when the man can die any minute

now some of them is telling the truth but not all of them and its all for the money

http://www.druhepkins.com/5-cosby-accusers-already-caught-in-lies/

Taylor Swift suing for 1 Dollar was a good idea

 

[Xzi]

Look at the civil war and the male only draft. White men were forced to fight in a war they didn't want to even after they protested. Even white males weren't always barred from laws. The only people that were able to avoid the draft were women and rich men. So in this sense rich males were equal to females. But even rich men had to buy their way out of freedom for $300 dollars to hire a substitute, a lot of money back in the day. A show on PBS said that the reason most males didn't hire substitutes was because women didn't allow it.They rejected men that refused to fight. (Women do have more social power than people give credit for.) And rich men that payed their way to freedom still had to provide for the war in some way and produce ammunitions and weapons for the war. The war was essential white males slaves (forced to fight by the draft) fighting to free black slaves. And women were exempt because they didn't want to see women suffer. But women did play a role along with males in shaming men to fight.

The draft has nothing to do with women's issues, and women weren't allowed in the military at the time. Sure it was a benefit that they avoided the draft, but there might well have been plenty of women willing to join up who never got the chance.

In addition, guys who didn't want to go could just dodge the draft like Trump did.

Lets look at Bill Cosby

why would they wait years when the man can die any minute

Because nobody would've cared in the 80s.

 

[Scarlet]

But yea if you talk about rape in the film industry then why dress like this
what was the fucking point of standing up for other women then? And somebody could jump that gate and rip her dress off

Whoaaaa, an outfit is not an invite for abuse. Holy Christ on a tricycle. It's like saying cosplayers deserve to be groped at conventions; it's wrong. Really mango, there's no argument to be had here. Rape is rape. There's no excuse.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Lets look at Bill Cosby

why would they wait years when the man can die any minute

now some of them is telling the truth but not all of them and its all for the money

http://www.druhepkins.com/5-cosby-accusers-already-caught-in-lies/

Taylor Swift suing for 1 Dollar was a good idea

Feminist wanted to destroy the "Father of America" but they had nothing to go on that is why it took Bill's lawyers less then an hour to end this crap.

 

[DRAGONBALLVINTAGE]

Whoaaaa, an outfit is not an invite for abuse. Holy Christ on a tricycle. It's like saying cosplayers deserve to be groped at conventions; it's wrong. Really mango, there's no argument to be had here. Rape is rape. There's no excuse.

I'm sorry for that one please forgive me

 

[Xzi]

Feminist wanted to destroy the "Father of America"

First you put Weinstein on a pedestal and now Cosby? You need to get some better role models.

 

[Deleted User]

Equal pay - i have no critisism on this one. Equal pay should be real.

yeah! its not fair that female hookers make more than male hookers!
but really
alot of women actually make more or slightly less than men
if we want equal pay it should be equal work
not someone bitching about heavy stuff while everyone else lifts it

 

[Xzi]

yeah! its not fair that female hookers make more than male hookers!
but really
alot of women actually make more or slightly less than men
if we want equal pay it should be equal work
not someone bitching about heavy stuff while everyone else lifts it

When people mention "equal pay" they're almost always referring to equal pay in the same position. "Heavy work"/blue collar work rarely pays well anyway.