Are you American? Are you circumcized? Then you NEED to watch this

[1776WillCommenceAgain]

No, really, you will be pissed off.. Everything we were taught about circumcision is a complete lie!

 

[Deleted User]

Watched this a couple of days ago, wanted a discussion on this. Good video. Had to speed it up though cause he talks a little slow.

 

[ThoD]

Without a "tl;dw" message explaining what it's all about and why that video is so important and not a complete waste of time considering how it's 2+ hours long, this is more fit for EoF really...

 

[Deleted User]

Without a "tl;dw" message explaining what it's all about and why that video is so important and not a complete waste of time considering how it's 2+ hours long, this is more fit for EoF really...

No it isn't. This is general off topic chat. I think it would be better for "world and politics" though.
TL;DR (but seriously watch the video): Circumcision is a practice that has no benifits and was originally done to mark us as cattle and rid us of sexual pleasure.

 

[1776WillCommenceAgain]

Tldr

You will be PISSED OFF... Everything we were ever taught about circumcision was a complete lie. None of it is true. It doesn't help prevent diseases, it isn't unhygienic. If you're uncut (NORMAL) dick is dirty then fucking clean it like you're supposed to. It is a religious practice being forced on us all...

Spread this shit. But definitely watch that video. Do not take my word for it. Watch the video and see for yourself. He goes into the entire history of circumcision

 

[AxlSt00pid]

Well, I'm not american and since I have phimosis and I, for the love of god, can't get rid of it I want to take a surgery to remove my skin
Does this have to concern me at all considering I'm from Spain?

 

[Deleted User]

Well, I'm not american and since I have phimosis and I, for the love of god, can't get rid of it I want to take a surgery to remove my skin
Does this have to concern me at all considering I'm from Spain?

Most likely not. Circumcision rates were like 1.8% in 1986 so no.

 

[ThoD]

No it isn't. This is general off topic chat. I think it would be better for "world and politics" though.
TL;DR (but seriously watch the video): Circumcision is a practice that has no benifits and was originally done to mark us as cattle and rid us of sexual pleasure.

I think you need to read a biology book. May watch the video when I have time and feel like boring myself with something that could be said in 2 paragraphs of text, but circumcision isn't for that reason. Circumcision decreases the rate of STD transmissions (as you don't get infected right away and the viruses/germs take a few hours to penetrate your skin which is done easier if they get stuck under the foreskin) and although using protection makes it obsolete, it's also for people suffering from phimosis, so depending on the case circumcision is not only good but also necessary... Don't know what the video says exactly but when I watch it I'll post again. And yes, maybe not EoF...

 

[Deleted User]

I think you need to read a biology book. May watch the video when I have time and feel like boring myself with something that could be said in 2 paragraphs of text, but circumcision isn't for that reason. Circumcision is decreases the rate of STD transmissions (as you don't get infected right away and the viruses/germs take a few hours to penetrate your skin which is done easier if they get stuck under the foreskin) and although using protection makes it obsolete, it's also for people suffering from phimosis, so depending on the case circumcision is not only good but also necessary... Don't know what the video says exactly but when I watch it I'll post again. And yes, maybe not EoF...

He explains that in the video actually. I don't remember the study actually but the STD thing is a myth.

Seriously, you can't say "something that could be said in 2 paragraphs of text" if you haven't watched the video. You seem to be cynical of the video already

 

[osaka35]

I think you need to read a biology book. May watch the video when I have time and feel like boring myself with something that could be said in 2 paragraphs of text, but circumcision isn't for that reason. Circumcision decreases the rate of STD transmissions (as you don't get infected right away and the viruses/germs take a few hours to penetrate your skin which is done easier if they get stuck under the foreskin) and although using protection makes it obsolete, it's also for people suffering from phimosis, so depending on the case circumcision is not only good but also necessary... Don't know what the video says exactly but when I watch it I'll post again. And yes, maybe not EoF...

decreases, sure. but do you know about how much? something like 1% or something like that. As opposed to condoms which which is closer to >99%. And that's only for the infections that are transmitted from direct genital to genital contact. And the reason why it does this? because without a foreskin, the head of the penis hardens a bit from all the unprotected rubbing. Which also means the head of the circumcised penis is less sensitive.

is a slight 1% increase in protection really worth it when having unprotected sex with an infected person really worth the chopping off so many nerve endings? Is it worth making that choice for a baby who won't need that 1% for a looooong time? And that's assuming that number is a valid result (I'm not sure if it's been debunked or not)

 

[SecureBoot]

No one's forcing parents to circumcise their kids. It looks neater, it has religious roots that people still recongnize, it's not a big deal at all

 

[matias3ds]

Are you talking about all the Americans ?? Like the ones that lives in Canada , Mexico , Brasil , Argentina .
Or only USA North Americans ?

 

[osaka35]

Are you talking about all the Americans ?? Like the ones that lives in Canada , Mexico , Brasil , Argentina .
Or only USA North Americans ?

"Americans" is the name of the people who live in the USA as "america" is the last part of the name of our country. If there was a country called "central america" or "north america", they could be called americans but they're not, so just us from the USA are called americans.

 

[Kioku]

I could guess what this was by the title. Makes sense...

 

[ThoD]

He explains that in the video actually. I don't remember the study actually but the STD thing is a myth.

Seriously, you can't say "something that could be said in 2 paragraphs of text" if you haven't watched the video. You seem to be cynical of the video already

That is because I can pretty much guess what he's talking about. Also, the 2 paragraphs of text thing came from watching 5 minutes and seeing how slow it goes...

decreases, sure. but do you know about how much? something like 1% or something like that. As opposed to condoms which which is closer to >99%. And that's only for the infections that are transmitted from direct genital to genital contact. And the reason why it does this? because without a foreskin, the head of the penis hardens a bit from all the unprotected rubbing. Which also means the head of the circumcised penis is less sensitive.

is a slight 1% increase in protection really worth it when having unprotected sex with an infected person really worth the chopping off so many nerve endings? Is it worth making that choice for a baby who won't need that 1% for a looooong time? And that's assuming that number is a valid result (I'm not sure if it's been debunked or not)

From what I remember, it's around 12%, but not for being infected yourself, but infecting others (your partner in case there's no fluid exchange, as fluids are almost guaranteed to spread diseases). Same goes for shaving, it prevents diseases TO your partner (eg: infection by hairmatter). I know about the loss of sensitivity and everything and really, I'm not saying circumcision should be done all the time, just trying to say it's case by case. Each person is different and depending on how the foreskin is and how it retracts for them should decide circumcision, definitely not something that should be done at birth, but rather at around 14-16 years old (past 18 there are risks after all and at 16 you've developed enough already to see if it's necessary).

 

[Subtle Demise]

Penn and Teller did it first. I honestly thought that was going to be the video linked here, but I can't stand to watch that episode due to them shlwing both the circumcision procedure as well as a method to restore the foreskin.

 

[invaderyoyo]

It should be outlawed. It's crazy how bad religion can cloud people's judgement.

 

[matias3ds]

"Americans" is the name of the people who live in the USA as "america" is the last part of the name of our country. If there was a country called "central america" or "north america", they could be called americans but they're not, so just us from the USA are called americans.

Now i thought that I know about geography , but Osaka also belong to USA ??? I was thinking that it was on Japan .
And by the way you country name doesnt need to have the America/n word in the country to make it a part of the continent ; all the people that lives inside de American continent are Americans , as much as all the people that lives in the European continent are Europeans , get it ?? :-)

 

[osaka35]

Now i thought that I know about geography , but Osaka also belong to USA ??? I was thinking that it was on Japan .
And by the way you country name doesnt need to have the America/n word in the country to make it a part of the continent ; all the people that lives inside de American country are Americans , as much as all the people that lives in the European continent are Europeans , get it ?? :-)

Good point! Those in the USA have a problem then, since "american" also applies to them alone, as well as being a part of north american. It reminds me of the ever-so fun problem of "are you irish tho" asked of those from nothern ireland.

And yes, I am human that lives in USA. Osaka is fun though, I love my Kushikatsu

 

[SecureBoot]

It should be outlawed. It's crazy how bad religion can cloud people's judgement.

Why is that necessary?