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What does "Shutting down the governement" means exactly?

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My understanding is that the President of Mexico campaigned and was elected based on getting America to build a wall. That was so that in a few years when massive amounts of Americans were fleeing to Mexico to get away from the crime, drugs and the cesspool that America had turned into Mexico wouldn't have to build a wall.
 

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The shutdown is back on and the stock market is plummeting. Trump is flip-flopping hard on whether or not to make the wall a priority, probably because he was told he's losing support over it.
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Even if he got his wall, what's to stop someone from knocking it back down anyway?
 
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Even if he got his wall, what's to stop someone from knocking it back down anyway?
A whole lotta nothing. Hell, it's likely to get destroyed in places as it's being built. Plus it's likely to be constructed out of 2-3 layers of particle board if it ever actually happens. The idiots who believe a wall accomplishes anything in 2018 are among his fan base, for Trump himself it's just about using wall funding to line the right pockets. That's why he was willing to give up on it fairly easily before he realized he might finally lose a little of his base over it.
 
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So the government might "shut down". The last time they did this (shut down) I didn't notice anything that changed. It's not like every government entity or service just stops working. If it does happen what should I expect to see impacted? Will I lost my internet? Will my power go out? Can I still buy food? Will water still fall out of my faucet?
 

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The government has already been shut down for years. They just call it congress. Nothing will happen they don't know how. Situation normal.
 

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Actually they are no more corrupt today then they were when the rail roads were being established in the 1800s. And I'm sure many other times. Read up on "Cash and Carry". Its normal government.
 

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The wall works for Israel and Spain, but those are tiny borders, only a few miles long. Ours would require constant maintenance and patrolling.
 

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And so on. I've read a few books about assertiveness, and this is a scholar example of what was there called "the broken record" method.

I like to think of it as the dictator's method. The inherent justification a dictator has to run a country is because he's right, and that means he has to be a broken record especially when he's wrong. It's why when people say they like strong leaders, I question whether they really know what that means.

Strong leaders may seem like a broken record because they push a certain belief system without much question, but they principally will listen to others and vary their approach as seems reasonable. The point when they become know-it-alls who refuse counsel either implicitly or explicitly is the point where you no longer have a strong leader but instead a dictator. And dictators are usually very childish, in the most evil sorts of ways.
 
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saw the 1st topic, why a french canadian is so concern about Usa's foreigner politics? Just saying.
A place closer to them than the nation's capital, a world power, a producer of a lot of things they enjoy, the primary trade partner of their country and province, a place where they likely have friends and associates? Why indeed.
 

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saw the 1st topic, why a french canadian is so concern about Usa's foreigner politics? Just saying.

Don't want to answer for OP, but I'd like to say that as a foreigner, I'm concerned about the USA's foreign politic.
Especially as it has effects on countries all over the world.
 

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I have to laugh at The Orange One and his followers acting all "Take THAT Dem's! Do what you're told or it will shut down!!!", as if a shut down is some sort of punishment that would effect ONLY Dems. Actually, I can't even laugh anymore. It's not even funny. It's just pure stupidity.

GOP had complete control of Congress for two years and he failed to get it done, but now it's suddenly Dems fault? Not to mention just last week he told Democratic House and Senate minority leaders "I am proud to shut down the government for border security," "... I will be the one to shut it down. I'm not going to blame you for it." But then this morning he Tweets "If enough Dems don’t vote, it will be a Democrat Shutdown!"

I say let him shut it down, then we'll see how well THAT works for him. It would just be another nail in his coffin.
 
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until my SSI check gets affected i'm not worried (but if the shutdown continues for a long time (months) it will be and I'm afraid trump is willing to shut us down until he gets his damn ineffective wall
 
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A wall, yeah, because people can't go around or fly over those :rolleyes:

If someone told that to Trump about the only thing I can picture him saying is, "It will be a tall wall. A VERY tall wall. We will build a wall on TOP of a wall on TOP of a wall. It will be so tall in fact, that it can be seen from space. Space force will be able to watch the very tall wall from space & shoot lasers at anyone attempting to fly over or drive around the wall."
 
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If someone told that to Trump about the only thing I can picture him saying is, "It will be a tall wall. A VERY tall wall. ..."

Uh, yea. Trump already once, when talking about his wall, went on about how one could defeat such a wall like ropes and ladders. I don't think he feels any need to actually justify how his wall would actually help. He just feels the need to keep calling for a wall to rally his base. That his base are still on board is where the stupidity is.
 
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