Do you go to church?

[The Catboy]

Still not really worshiping them nor putting them before God him/herself...so I fail to see the problem.

Idolatry is a little different than that. It doesn't have to be a worship system, it's just idolising anything that isn't God. If you want to get literal about it both Christians and Muslims commit idolatry on a daily basis. Christians aspire to more like Christ and Muslims aspire to be like Mohammed (the more devout ones anyway) instead of aspiring to simply follow the word of God. Both are committing idolatry in the way it's described in the Bible. It's not just the worshiping, it's the placing of something other than God on a pedestal.

Well that clears that up a bit more

 

[spotanjo3]

The same for Mary is the mother of God ? Absolutely not!

Bible: "You are to conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you must name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High..... And so the child will be holy and will be called Son of God" Luke 1:31-35, The New Jerusalem Bible. That passage of Scripture clearly states that Mary was the mother of the "son of God," Not of god himself.

Fact: Mary was the mother of Son of God, not of God himself. The Trinity myth gave birth to the worship of Mary as the Mother of God.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Seriously, All religion is, is mankind's cure for their fear of the unknown. They have no idea what happens when you die, so they make up some bearded magician in the sky that magically poofed us into existence, and will magically poof us in a awesome paradise, which also, no one knows about.

Edit: Hey I didnt know you trashed it, but great moderation, Boss Hogg. I was just trying to fix the youtube tags.

 

[BlueStar]

Fact: Mary was the mother of Son of God, not of God himself. The Trinity myth gave birth to the worship of Mary as the Mother of God.

So here you are, rubbishing the beliefs of of millions of Christians, declaring as fact that what they believe in is wrong... Isn't that exactly what atheists keep getting accused of in this thread?

Catholics find just as much 'proof' in the bible for their beliefs as you find for yours. They do not see Jesus being the Son of God as being something whih precludes him from also being God. After all, when you believe in a being that is basically magic then anything s possible.

 

[TrolleyDave]

Still not really worshiping them nor putting them before God him/herself...so I fail to see the problem.

Idolatry is a little different than that. It doesn't have to be a worship system, it's just idolising anything that isn't God. If you want to get literal about it both Christians and Muslims commit idolatry on a daily basis. Christians aspire to more like Christ and Muslims aspire to be like Mohammed (the more devout ones anyway) instead of aspiring to simply follow the word of God. Both are committing idolatry in the way it's described in the Bible. It's not just the worshiping, it's the placing of something other than God on a pedestal.

Well that clears that up a bit more

lol Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well. Simply idolising something other than God is considered a sin. So when a Christian does his best to be like Christ he is putting Christ on a pedestal that is supposed to be reserved only for God. Same with Muslims who do their best to imitate Mohammed. They aren't following God, they're mimicking a person. According the religious dogma people are supposed to be praising God and his all-mightiness and following the commandments and philosophies that he sent down. They're also supposed to be doing out of free will rather than out of the need to be like another human being. Does that make more sense?

 

[Monkee3000]

Actually, it is a false teaching.

If that is true then we must bring into question everything that has been taught.

 

[The Catboy]

Still not really worshiping them nor putting them before God him/herself...so I fail to see the problem.

Idolatry is a little different than that. It doesn't have to be a worship system, it's just idolising anything that isn't God. If you want to get literal about it both Christians and Muslims commit idolatry on a daily basis. Christians aspire to more like Christ and Muslims aspire to be like Mohammed (the more devout ones anyway) instead of aspiring to simply follow the word of God. Both are committing idolatry in the way it's described in the Bible. It's not just the worshiping, it's the placing of something other than God on a pedestal.

Well that clears that up a bit more

lol Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well. Simply idolising something other than God is considered a sin. So when a Christian does his best to be like Christ he is putting Christ on a pedestal that is supposed to be reserved only for God. Same with Muslims who do there best to imitate Mohammed. The aren't following God, they're mimicking a person. According the religious dogma people are supposed to be praising God and his all-mightiness and following the commandments and philosophies that he sent down. There also supposed to be doing out of free will rather than out of the need to be like another human being. Does that make more sense?

That does make more sense.
Although I still fail to see anyone really doing that with a video game God, unless they count the character in the game doing that as a problem.

 

[TrolleyDave]

That does make more sense.
Although I still fail to see anyone really doing that with a video game God, unless they count the character in the game doing that as a problem.

No I agree with you there. The game characters themselves get idolised rather than Gods in the games. Hell, the consoles get idolised alot more than the Gods in the games.

 

[The Catboy]

That does make more sense.
Although I still fail to see anyone really doing that with a video game God, unless they count the character in the game doing that as a problem.

No I agree with you there. The game characters themselves get idolised rather than Gods in the games. Hell, the consoles get idolised alot more than the Gods in the games.

So gamers souls are safe?

 

[TrolleyDave]

That does make more sense.
Although I still fail to see anyone really doing that with a video game God, unless they count the character in the game doing that as a problem.

No I agree with you there. The game characters themselves get idolised rather than Gods in the games. Hell, the consoles get idolised alot more than the Gods in the games.

So gamers souls are safe?

Depends on how much of a fanboy you are. lol

 

[The Catboy]

That does make more sense.
Although I still fail to see anyone really doing that with a video game God, unless they count the character in the game doing that as a problem.

No I agree with you there. The game characters themselves get idolised rather than Gods in the games. Hell, the consoles get idolised alot more than the Gods in the games.

So gamers souls are safe?

Depends on how much of a fanboy you are. lol

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

 

[TrolleyDave]

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

It'll be in my hands then as I'll probably die before you, and several priests and even a Sunday School teacher told me I was going to Hell. And what's the point of being in Hell if you're not in charge of the festivities.

 

[yuyuyup]

hell no jesus is a piece of shit, I want to piss in god's face for giving me a fucked up nose since birth

 

[The Catboy]

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

It'll be in my hands then as I'll probably die before you, and several priests and even a Sunday School teacher told me I was going to Hell. And what's the point of being in Hell if you're not in charge of the festivities.

We three can rule hell with an iron fist

 

[TrolleyDave]

Right, this is my final warning. If it doesn't stay civil then the thread doesn't stay open. Argue against the existence or non-existence of God all you want, but do it intelligently and with a little bit of politeness.

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

It'll be in my hands then as I'll probably die before you, and several priests and even a Sunday School teacher told me I was going to Hell. And what's the point of being in Hell if you're not in charge of the festivities.

We three can rule hell with an iron fist

Sorted! Although the Christian/Muslim version of Hell is kind of stale and boring, I'm hoping to make it more like the Chinese version of Hell, add a bit of variety!

 

[Monkee3000]

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

It'll be in my hands then as I'll probably die before you, and several priests and even a Sunday School teacher told me I was going to Hell. And what's the point of being in Hell if you're not in charge of the festivities.

May I take this opertunity to throw my hat into the Ring.

So, the race is on!
OK, Gents let us agree. The first one to achieve power in the Underworld buys the first round.

 

[The Catboy]

Right, this is my final warning. If it doesn't stay civil then the thread doesn't stay open. Argue against the existence or non-existence of God all you want, but do it intelligently and with a little bit of politeness.

Hmmm, that's another one to add to the list of reasons why I am going to Hell. Sveet! Maybe Mike and me will finally be able to take it over!

It'll be in my hands then as I'll probably die before you, and several priests and even a Sunday School teacher told me I was going to Hell. And what's the point of being in Hell if you're not in charge of the festivities.

We three can rule hell with an iron fist

Sorted! Although the Christian/Muslim version of Hell is kind of stale and boring, I'm hoping to make it more like the Chinese version of Hell, add a bit of variety!

I am adding an overly peaceful side then!

 

[basher11]

Chinese version of hell?

sorry, but it's boring as hell too.

Spoiler

i should know, I'm chinese

 

[TrapperKeeperX]

Nope I just hate religion *snip

 

[Monkee3000]

Odds
TrolleyDave 2-1 fav
A Gay Little Cat Boy 4-1
monkee3000 8-1

Sorry to go off topic.