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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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that's a very naive look on the world.

Everyone has the right to choose what chemicals/drugs they want to put into their own body.. .What is naive is assuming you have the right to tell someone else what chemicals they should consume... This is the case with smoking. Would you go around forcing people to smoke your cannabis? Would you ever slip someone a sedative they hadn't asked for? Would you give someone acid without their consent?... That is the problem with smoking.

Calling the desire to avoid having your children inhale noxious and toxic chemicals "naive" is extremely naive indeed. If you are referring to the statement that you should quit a habit if it has negative consequences for others then let me know next time you open your door to invite in a junky...
 

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46% of people who TRY to quit smoking can't. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that? The companies that make tobacco products control almost half of the people who start their products. And then they charge outrageous amounts of cash for them. Cigarettes should have a warning "There is about a 1:1 chance that you will be paying us for the rest of your life, while your lungs slowly deteriorate."
 

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Well thats just a diffrent story. Someone whos ugly isnt going to affect your health in any way if you look at them
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Unless they have a really high case of fuglyness.
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What i'm saying is you can't just enforce your will on someone just because it makes you feel uncomfortable, they have the right to do what they do.
 

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it isn't because its uncomfortable its just the fact people die from passive smoking. Some of the laws are stupid over here listen to this one. If you call a plumber you cant smoke in your own house 2 hours before he comes isnt that rule stupid
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My favourite is the one that says "Smoking may reduce the blood flow and cause impotence" I've actually seen someone cringe in a shop when they bought a packet with that on.


@crafton48: thegame07 made a good point, and 2cb2ct7 explained it beyond any shadow of a doubt, you aren't making a sensible argument.
 

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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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that's a very naive look on the world.

I'm just saying that is how it should be. When I smoked I would always put some distance between my cigarette and any kids in the vicinity (bus stop, pub, highstreet, wherever).

One of the funniest things I ever saw was when I was sitting at a bus station, along with a guy and his son, and this other guy swaggers over, sits down next to me and lights up. When the first guy asked him politely if he wouldn't mind moving (his son was about 5-7 yrs old) the guy with the ciggie said he could "smoke wherever he fuc*ing wants to!". I suppose he had a point, he did have that right, but he finished smoking his cigarette while unconscious on the bus station floor
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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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that's a very naive look on the world.

I'm just saying that is how it should be. When I smoked I would always put some distance between my cigarette and any kids in the vicinity (bus stop, pub, highstreet, wherever).

One of the funniest things I ever saw was when I was sitting at a bus station, along with a guy and his son, and this other guy swaggers over, sits down next to me and lights up. When the first guy asked him politely if he wouldn't mind moving (his son was about 5-7 yrs old) the guy with the ciggie said he could "smoke wherever he fuc*ing wants to!". I suppose he had a point, he did have that right, but he finished smoking his cigarette while unconscious on the bus station floor
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i'm gonna sum up cause i'm gonna goto bed, the only point i'm trying to make is that smoking is legal, and people should have the right to smoke it where ever they are allowed, and if they are allowed to smoke in a certain area, they shouldn't be forced to stop just because it makes you feel uncomfortable.
 

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Ok, suit yourself. Worry later ? That is exactly the way you will waste your life! Well, enjoy while you can. *GEEZ!*

EDIT: I feel sorry for you.

Smoking is wasting my life? wow...


Many nonsmokers are judgemental. They feel superior to smokers since they don't smoke.

Enjoy your soda, red meat and whatever else you eat that'll contribute to your demise. Let the smokers be, we know its bad for us. No need to act all high and mighty.


You forgot something. If you believe in God... That's between you and God. Be warn: You have got against God for you shall not take God’s name in vain. God can forgive us and grant us the gift of everlasting life if we change our way.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised because the things you might have forgotten about the wick system: Job days and Noah days. Do not laugh for it was in the days of Noah and days of Job, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man. Be prepare!

Therefore I take it that when I tell you why I am not a Christian I have to tell you two different things: God does exist and The war of Armageddon will happen. The world has gone bad so I do believe in God.

I feel sorry for you guys, really.
 

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Unfortunately, yes, I smoke. Wish I didn't, but trying to quit is rough. I end up pacing back and forth through the house, get very short-tempered and anxiety goes through the roof.

Yes, it's a very disgusting habit. I hate it and I've been trying to find a way to quit that works for me. I don't get into nicotine gum or patches.....that would just be trading one addiction for another.

Here's the website to check out that I was given by some doctors once:
Facts about quitting smoking.

Long story short, it takes 15 years to fully recover from the effects of smoking. If I quit today, I'd be 54 before I'd be truly free of the issues surrounding smoking.

Hmm...I'm on my last pack right now.....do I try to quit AGAIN or do I try to endure the hell I'll go through by trying to quit? I never made it past a week before.

I did manage to quit drinking about 10 years ago.....well, I don't drink every day like I used to....maybe once or twice a month, and I never get totally plastered like I used to. So that's something, I guess.
 

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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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that's a very naive look on the world.

Everyone has the right to choose what chemicals/drugs they want to put into their own body.. .What is naive is assuming you have the right to tell someone else what chemicals they should consume... This is the case with smoking. Would you go around forcing people to smoke your cannabis? Would you ever slip someone a sedative they hadn't asked for? Would you give someone acid without their consent?... That is the problem with smoking.

Calling the desire to avoid having your children inhale noxious and toxic chemicals "naive" is extremely naive indeed. If you are referring to the statement that you should quit a habit if it has negative consequences for others then let me know next time you open your door to invite in a junky...

I think he was referring to the fact that most participants on this forum live in highly industrial nations where CO2-based pollution kills far more than nicotine-related pollution.
Keep using the cigarette as a scapegoat if you want, but don't forget to take out the SUV to bring little timmy to his soccer practice.

Disclaimer : I didn't advocate blowing your smoke in a kid's face.
 

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My thoughts:

I don't hate anyone because they smoke, in fact some of the people i respect smoke. Although i do dislike many smokers, it is those who have attitude problems

My number one concern of smoking is health damage.
I severely dislike inhaling second hand smoke. In fact i hold my breath for as long as possible when around people smoking to protect myself.
Health is a major part of living a good life. Even if you don't feel particularly bad as a result of smoking in the future, i'm sure you would feel much better if you had never smoked.
Excluding addiction, I cannot understand why anyone would want to compromise their optimum body condition to inhale smoke.

When people justify smoking by suggesting that even though it decreases their life and health it improves the way they feel, I reject them.
A temporary relief is no way to lead a good life. What advantages are there to smoking? NONE.

If you justify smoking with "because i feel like it", you are stupid or addicted.

Many nonsmokers are judgemental.  They feel superior to smokers since they don't smoke. 

In a way i do feel superior.
Those who reject smoking have a stronger beneficial mindset for all of life.
i feel that willpower is an essential part to being a good human.

If people around you encourage you to smoke, you are hanging around the wrong people; the weaklings of society.
By accepting this pressure and smoking for the first time you have already determined yourself as a weak person.

People who "want" to stop but feel they can't because of the addiction, I challenge you to discover your innate reasoning. It is all in the mind.
You are no different to the Obese people in the world who find excuses for not exercising and eating healthily.
You are no different to the people who can't fight for or accept their life and escape through suicide.
You are no different to the martyr's for religion and other symbols who are to cowardly too think for themsleves.

The willpower to quit isn't neccessarily the ability to go cold turkey without help.
Seeking out others for help and advice requires willpower.
Discarding pressure requires willpower.
Fighting with yourself requires willpower

When you quit you do not only leave behind the smoke, you leave behind a whole worthless mindset.

I hope at least some day, whether it bee soon or not, that the smokers here free themselves.
 

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I think OSW and I share a fairly similar mindset although maybe not quite as polar, my view on this is much like my view on religion:
It is nonsense/pointless but as long as keep me out of it (do not try to interest me or try to get laws that concern me changed) whatever gets you through life.

As for peer pressure, only once did someone try it (as in a back me into corner attempt) and I warn you all: teeth shaped indentations take a while to leave your elbow, not sure about adult teeth regrowth though.

Apologies for forgetting the name but someone mentioned high price, I think you find that is tax:
http://www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=43
 

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As for peer pressure, only once did someone try it (as in a back me into corner attempt) and I warn you all: teeth shaped indentations take a while to leave your elbow, not sure about adult teeth regrowth though.

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Unfortunately peer pressure is most influential among adolescents. That's when most people in my region start smoking and thats why ciggies need banning completely.

We should let the existing smokers continue to suck death though (they are addicts after all)
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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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Yea....bring your kids into the bar where they can kill their liver....but at least their lungs are okay....
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If you don't like it take the kids to a place which is smoke free
Kids have the right to go where they want without having to breath in harmful chemicals. If your habit has negative effects on someone's health then you should have the decency to move on. If you don't like it, quit
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Yea....bring your kids into the bar where they can kill their liver....but at least their lungs are okay....
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I'm talking about UK pubs (meals, lounges, lemonade for kids etc) not your yankee-doodle saloons with poker and spittoons
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