Heterosexual privilege and other gender/sexuality issues...

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0) The heterosexual privilege is a horrible thing to face every f***ing day. What is heterosexual privilege you ask? It is the fact that being heterosexual is the "blank slate" or the normal condition of a human being. It is a given that any presumed heterosexual person can walk into a store, and purchase a greeting card that is perfect for their relationship. Any homosexual person cannot do the same - I cannot walk into a store and buy a greeting card that expresses my love for my partner. Heterosexual privilege is the state of mind that makes a couple of opposite sexes not worthy of attention, while homosexual couples have to be guarded about what they say. Homosexuals do not shove this fact into your faces - you just notice it more. I am still waiting for a marketing firm to create an image of homosexual women or men to be presented normally - instead of being the weird/attention getting thing most people consider it to be.

1) I find people who are obnoxious about their sexuality really annoying. Be they gay, straight, bisexual, transgendered or whatever labels they apply to themselves. This behaviour is really easy to get out of control - it's okay to be proud and out, but do some people really have to make asses of themselves? This goes to all of the people who don't defy stereotypes - we have women who are really masculine/butch or really feminine guys! Seriously, people - it's about relationships - you can't have relationships when you alienate the majority of people you interact with. And it's a cause for safety - what happens if a really genderqueer (someone who doesn't follow traditional gender roles) individual happens to piss off a really traditional person? It may mean violence, it may mean death or at least embarrassment.

2) Coming out is an ongoing process for queer people. We choose everyday who we explain our sexuality to. Some individuals choose to make it obvious through mode of dress, hairstyles, or even speech patterns. When someone "comes out" they make that choice to make it known. I for example, am out to a few cousins, my dad and a couple other trustworthy people.


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A) no one will "marketing firm to create an image of homosexual women or men to be presented normally - instead of being the weird/attention getting thing most people consider it to be" until it is completely accepted by majority of people.. They risk hate and being boycotted by raticals
B) I'm with you about having beliefs shoved down your throat be it sexuality or in my case RELIGION. It usually leads to hatred or resentment and being human.. resentment is a hard thing to get rid of thus slowing down the process of acceptance:
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EDIT: "Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it." Also true.. Sexuality is Natures way of reproduction and keeping life going not recreation or emotional attachment. Emotion is a disease that prevents evolution
 

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@astrangeone Kinda confused. How would they know your sexuality from a greeting card? Never seen one that shows sexuality, just vague statements.

m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?
 

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KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
 

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m3rox said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
technacly they are very different but that point has been made before.. though not as bad acceptance of it opens a door to acceptance to pedophilia and beatiality
 

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m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.

Is liking school a malfunction? Is hating gaming a malfunction? What you call a malfunction is preference. People have the freedom to choose what they prefer.
 

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m3rox said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia is the same as comparing heterosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia to my eyes.

Sounds like Heterosexuality is a malfunction as well.

Again, not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Some only do sex for pleasure, is that a malfunction?

You do know overpopulation is a bad thing, right?
 

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BloodyFlame said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.

Is liking school a malfunction? Is hating gaming a malfunction? What you call a malfunction is preference. People have the freedom to choose what they prefer.
I don't share his opinion, but you seem to be ignoring his point. To him, sex is only useful for reproduction and, thus, anyone who is attracted to a partner with whom procreation is not possible has an obvious brain malfunction. To you, it's a matter of choice, freedom and simple preference. To him, it's an abomination of nature. To each his own.
 

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So, the two thoughts proposed are homosexuality is a choice and homosexuality is a mental problem. I personally believe that if you dismiss the idea of it being a choice, that means it is indeed a mental problem, or perhaps not mental, but hormonal. You can't deny that it makes sense for evolution and natural selection to result in it being normal for your hormones to make you attracted to the opposite sex, because natural selection would obviously favor organisms that have instincts to reproduce. Therefore, it's logical to assume that it is some kind of genetic abnormality to be attracted to the same sex. I'm not trying to "flame" or anything, I'm just looking at this from a logical and perhaps scientific perspective.
 

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Pyrmon said:
BloodyFlame said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.

Is liking school a malfunction? Is hating gaming a malfunction? What you call a malfunction is preference. People have the freedom to choose what they prefer.
I don't share his opinion, but you seem to be ignoring his point. To him, sex is only useful for reproduction and, thus, anyone who is attracted to a partner with whom procreation is not possible has an obvious brain malfunction. To you, it's a matter of choice, freedom and simple preference. To him, it's an abomination of nature. To each his own.

Oh, I just missed his second post.
 

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KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia is the same as comparing heterosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia to my eyes.

Sounds like Heterosexuality is a malfunction as well.

Again, not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Some only do sex for pleasure, is that a malfunction?

thats not fair.. people are naturally attracted to the opposite.. natures procreation method. but the human minds perverts everything and the disgustingness of man finds pleasure in it.. nature gave us the orgasm so we would want a certain feeling from the sexual experience. some people like it some dont.. theres people who dont even care about sex.
 

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Pyrmon said:
BloodyFlame said:
m3rox said:
-snip-
I don't share his opinion, but you seem to be ignoring his point. To him, sex is only useful for reproduction and, thus, anyone who is attracted to a partner with whom procreation is not possible has an obvious brain malfunction. To you, it's a matter of choice, freedom and simple preference. To him, it's an abomination of nature. To each his own.

+1

On a side note, people who flaunt ANYTHING too much, be it money, fame, race, social status, or sexual orientation, ALWAYS get on my nerves.
 

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KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia is the same as comparing heterosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia to my eyes.

Sounds like Heterosexuality is a malfunction as well.

Again, not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Some only do sex for pleasure, is that a malfunction?
The jest of it is that men is supposed to be attracted to women and vice versa. It's how the human race is supposed to be in order to continue existing. Well that what i get from what he's trying to say, it's to big a matter to be compared. I foresee 10-page homo/hetero-sexuality debate.
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sinharvest24 said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
KingVamp said:
m3rox said:
Homosexuality isn't normal. It's a malfunction. We tolerate it.
That seem so close-minded and for some reason wrong to me.

What makes you so right to say it is a malfunction?

Not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Two men can't repopulate, neither can two women. That's the sole purpose of sex. Homosexuality is a brain malfunction. Same as pedophilia and necrophilia. (are you going to defend those also?)
Comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia is the same as comparing heterosexuality to pedophilia and necrophilia to my eyes.

Sounds like Heterosexuality is a malfunction as well.

Again, not all people make a family, they have a malfunction too?

Some only do sex for pleasure, is that a malfunction?
The jest of it is that men is supposed to be attracted to women and vice versa. It's how the human race is supposed to be in order to continue existing. Well that what i get from what he's trying to say, it's to big a matter to be compared. I foresee 10-page homo/hetero-sexuality debate.
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flame war?
 

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sinharvest24 said:
The jest of it is that men is supposed to be attracted to women and vice versa. It's how the human race is supposed to be in order to continue existing. Well that what i get from what he's trying to say, it's to big a matter to be compared. I foresee 10-page homo/hetero-sexuality debate.
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NO! Mods please close this already, this is not the place for this. This will turn into a raging anti/pro homo troll thread real quick.
 

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HateBreed said:
thats not fair.. people are naturally attracted to the opposite.. natures procreation method. but the human minds perverts everything and the disgustingness of man finds pleasure in it.. nature gave us the orgasm so we would want a certain feeling from the sexual experience. some people like it some dont.. theres people who dont even care about sex.
That not fair... to deem homosexually not natural. We don't fully understand nature. Homosexually could be away to help prevent overpopulation.

It not fair to say it is unnatural for two men or women to like each other.
 

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Thesolcity said:
sinharvest24 said:
The jest of it is that men is supposed to be attracted to women and vice versa. It's how the human race is supposed to be in order to continue existing. Well that what i get from what he's trying to say, it's to big a matter to be compared. I foresee 10-page homo/hetero-sexuality debate.
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NO! Mods please close this already, this is not the place for this. This will turn into a raging anti/pro homo troll thread real quick.
Who knows? Perhaps the tempers are ready for this. Let it go on a little bit more to see what happens, and if it gets out of hand, close it.
 

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KingVamp said:
HateBreed said:
thats not fair.. people are naturally attracted to the opposite.. natures procreation method. but the human minds perverts everything and the disgustingness of man finds pleasure in it.. nature gave us the orgasm so we would want a certain feeling from the sexual experience. some people like it some dont.. theres people who dont even care about sex.
That not fair... to deem homosexually not natural. We don't fully understand nature. Homosexually could be away to prevent overpopulation.
lol, never thought of it that way before....
 

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KingVamp said:
HateBreed said:
thats not fair.. people are naturally attracted to the opposite.. natures procreation method. but the human minds perverts everything and the disgustingness of man finds pleasure in it.. nature gave us the orgasm so we would want a certain feeling from the sexual experience. some people like it some dont.. theres people who dont even care about sex.
That not fair... to deem homosexually not natural. We don't fully understand nature. Homosexually could be away to help prevent overpopulation.

It not fair to say it is unnatural for two men or women to like each other.

Nature put hate in us as an overpopulation method. We will start wars an genocide and disease and so on and so forth. I'm anti-nothing. As long as beliefs are kept to themselves and PDA stays hidden its all groovy.
 

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