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science said:im pretty smart but i voted for the wrong one accidently can i change it
haha that was a good one.
science said:im pretty smart but i voted for the wrong one accidently can i change it
Prophet said:I'm in the top 1% on various scales, statewide and nationwide. I've been in specialized schooling since I was 8. I am "smart".
But pride comes before the fall so let me add this: Intelligence is overrated. Most of the supposedly intelligent are nothing more than parrots. They know how to "perform", they give the right responses and make the right motions. I believe that many people confuse efficiency with intellect. The person who navigates through college/work/society with ease, is not necessarily smart. They are simply the best performers. The most intelligent person is the one who forgoes the memorization of law books and medical periodicals and instead opts to create. The poet, the painter, the philosopher. These are the intellectuals; those who are inspired to build anew, while the layman continues running the well weathered path to success and mediocrity.
It's late, so sorry if I misinterpret your post... but...Prophet said:I'm in the top 1% on various scales, statewide and nationwide. I've been in specialized schooling since I was 8. I am "smart".
But pride comes before the fall so let me add this: Intelligence is overrated. Most of the supposedly intelligent are nothing more than parrots. They know how to "perform", they give the right responses and make the right motions. I believe that many people confuse efficiency with intellect. The person who navigates through college/work/society with ease, is not necessarily smart. They are simply the best performers. The most intelligent person is the one who forgoes the memorization of law books and medical periodicals and instead opts to create. The poet, the painter, the philosopher. These are the intellectuals; those who are inspired to build anew, while the layman continues running the well weathered path to success and mediocrity.
edit: Those who voted average are probally the smartest people in this thread.
Linkiboy said:I'm "school smart" apparently.
It's late, so sorry if I misinterpret your post... but...Prophet said:I'm in the top 1% on various scales, statewide and nationwide. I've been in specialized schooling since I was 8. I am "smart".
But pride comes before the fall so let me add this: Intelligence is overrated. Most of the supposedly intelligent are nothing more than parrots. They know how to "perform", they give the right responses and make the right motions. I believe that many people confuse efficiency with intellect. The person who navigates through college/work/society with ease, is not necessarily smart. They are simply the best performers. The most intelligent person is the one who forgoes the memorization of law books and medical periodicals and instead opts to create. The poet, the painter, the philosopher. These are the intellectuals; those who are inspired to build anew, while the layman continues running the well weathered path to success and mediocrity.
edit: Those who voted average are probally the smartest people in this thread.
Sounds to me like you're just redefining "smart" in your own way. Society sees "smart" and "intelligent" as a measure of the amount of formulas and definitions you can memorize.
Society dictates the truth, even if its not the truth, unfortunately. An example would be religion or rituals that don't actually do anything.
Though, you're right. These intellectuals are the ones who have the power to change society. And if they are truly smart, they do.
Your the smartest person here in this thread Prophet, kudos.Prophet said:Linkiboy said:I'm "school smart" apparently.
It's late, so sorry if I misinterpret your post... but...Prophet said:I'm in the top 1% on various scales, statewide and nationwide. I've been in specialized schooling since I was 8. I am "smart".
But pride comes before the fall so let me add this: Intelligence is overrated. Most of the supposedly intelligent are nothing more than parrots. They know how to "perform", they give the right responses and make the right motions. I believe that many people confuse efficiency with intellect. The person who navigates through college/work/society with ease, is not necessarily smart. They are simply the best performers. The most intelligent person is the one who forgoes the memorization of law books and medical periodicals and instead opts to create. The poet, the painter, the philosopher. These are the intellectuals; those who are inspired to build anew, while the layman continues running the well weathered path to success and mediocrity.
edit: Those who voted average are probally the smartest people in this thread.
Sounds to me like you're just redefining "smart" in your own way. Society sees "smart" and "intelligent" as a measure of the amount of formulas and definitions you can memorize.
Society dictates the truth, even if its not the truth, unfortunately. An example would be religion or rituals that don't actually do anything.
Though, you're right. These intellectuals are the ones who have the power to change society. And if they are truly smart, they do.
I wouldn't call it redefining, more of a reassessment. I am attempting to take the words back to their base meanings. "Intelligence" is derived from the Latin word intellegere, which when translated means "to understand". Now the skeptic would say "Well the people who get ahead in society are the ones who understand the best. They understand their lessons in school, they understand what their bosses are looking for at work... yada yada" This statement is forgivable, but completely wrong. The skeptic is taking "to understand" to mean "to understand what has been imparted to you". "To understand," is quite different. One who understands the form and contours of the world well enough to replicate them in a painting or sculpture is intelligent. Furthermore, look at someone like Einstein. He was taught the basics of mathematics in school but he found the lessons to be insufficient. Why? because he "understood" that what had been imparted to him was incomplete. He saw logical holes, many of which calculus would eventually fill. A child that concerns themselves with the logical progression of theory or practice, is intelligent.
I'll try not to go to deep into this but here is my argument: The first step to true intelligence, begins in understanding that there are things that still remain insufficiently understood. No one is born understanding, all begins in wonder. We are all inquisitive as children and I feel this is the stage where the the truly intelligent are formed. Although very few of us are nurtured in a manner that teaches us to question everything, there are those who are allowed their inquisitive nature and those to stubborn to be stifled by societies inclination to simplify existence. "To understand" we must question, probe, and reflect. To be intelligent is to find your own path to understanding. Which is not to say that books and lessons are useless, far from it. It is completely possible that one could receive an elementary lesson and use it as a springboard from which they might seek greater understanding. But who truly seeks understanding in school? We seek good marks, we seek social standing. We do not wish to understand we wish to win. That is not intelligence, that is competency in a controlled environment. That is the same drive that sets the horse to race. It is no wonder than that in a world built upon competition, true intelligence is becoming rarer by the minute.
Side-note: If anyone actually read all of that, bravo.
Shiro786 said:fischju said:3.93 GPA, at least 96th percentile in every standardized test, IQ 155, joining the Navy's Nuclear Power School in May
I love you.
Grades or marks do not determine whether or not you are smart, its job is to help you learn, and people are forgetting this. The problem with society today, is that your intellect is measured by "doing your homework", and how prestigious your background is, and how much is in your wallet.
theman69 said:Prophet all i got from that is when u don't understand and when u ask questions u are a G.
That doesn't seem to far off from my point, if "G" represents a high level of enlightenment.
fischju said:Shiro786 said:QUOTE(fischju @ Aug 18 2008, 10:33 AM) 3.93 GPA, at least 96th percentile in every standardized test, IQ 155, joining the Navy's Nuclear Power School in May
I love you.
Grades or marks do not determine whether or not you are smart, its job is to help you learn, and people are forgetting this. The problem with society today, is that your intellect is measured by "doing your homework", and how prestigious your background is, and how much is in your wallet.
You underestimate my intelligence, and I'm sorry for giving you numbers you could relate to rather than an essay on how subjective intelligence is along with my life story. Again, my fault you choose to display your 'intelligence' by telling me how useless the information I gave was. Did I mention that I never did homework and got kicked out of school? I can't seem to remember....
Wow...Prophet said:I wouldn't call it redefining, more of a reassessment. I am attempting to take the words back to their base meanings. "Intelligence" is derived from the Latin word intellegere, which when translated means "to understand". Now the skeptic would say "Well the people who get ahead in society are the ones who understand the best. They understand their lessons in school, they understand what their bosses are looking for at work... yada yada" This statement is forgivable, but completely wrong. The skeptic is taking "to understand" to mean "to understand what has been imparted to you". "To understand," is quite different. One who understands the form and contours of the world well enough to replicate them in a painting or sculpture is intelligent. Furthermore, look at someone like Einstein. He was taught the basics of mathematics in school but he found the lessons to be insufficient. Why? because he "understood" that what had been imparted to him was incomplete. He saw logical holes, many of which calculus would eventually fill. A child that concerns themselves with the logical progression of theory or practice, is intelligent.