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Man pushed mother with her 8 year old child on railroad

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Stunned after death of a boy

An eight-year-old boy died on Monday at the Frankfurt train station.
He and his mother had been pushed onto the tracks by what appeared to be a complete stranger.
The woman could save herself, for the child any help came too late.
The question of why remains.

Apprehension, shock and grief spread on Monday, eyewitnesses at Frankfurt's main station collapsed in tears. One morning, a man had pushed a woman and her eight-year-old son onto the trackbed. The 40-year-old mother had saved herself on a footpath between two tracks. The eight-year-old was captured and killed by an incoming ICE.

A suspect was arrested, the 40-year-old man is said to come from Eritrea. According to dpa information, he lives in Switzerland. So far, he has not yet commented on the attack. As a spokeswoman for the prosecutor said, he will be presented on Tuesday to the magistrate. The police are investigating a homicidal crime and are evaluating video recordings. She called witnesses to come forward.

The suspect is said to have tried with another person to push them on the tracks. He fled first, but was followed by passers-by and later arrested by the police outside the station. The alleged perpetrator and his victims did not know each other according to the investigation. The boy's mother was taken to a hospital and given emergency medical care. Deutsche Bahn announced that it would be releasing a psychological support helicopter for witnesses to the incident. Frankfurt Central Station is one of the largest train stations in Germany and is visited by almost 500,000 people every day.

https://orf.at/stories/3131939/
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Similar case just a week ago

The case is reminiscent of an attack that took place in Voerde in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia just over a week ago: There, a man had pushed a woman at a train station in front of a regional train and thus killed. The 28-year-old suspect - a Serb born in Germany - is in custody on suspicion of murder.

As in the case of Frankfurt, the alleged perpetrator and the victim did not know each other according to the investigators. According to a blood test, the 28-year-old has evidence of cocaine use. It had been detected in him degradation products of cocaine in the blood. "But that does not mean that he was actually under cocaine influence," said the Duisburg prosecutor on Monday.
 
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This man deserves a fate far worse than death. Of course he must die also, whether by the state (does Germany have the death penalty?) or by prison vigilantes. Doesn't matter to me how he goes.

No death penalty here,we better not to start an discussion about this.:)
(but I am on your "side" in this case...)
 

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Because it's barbaric, and a VERY childish suggestion of which those who aren't very smart tend to suggest. Those who suggest it or see it as 'ok' are very emotionally and morally immature, and have some growing up to do. Let him rot in jail and sit with what he's done, as oppsed to giving him the easy way out. No human has the right to discern whether another lives or dies. Nobody deserves such power. And if someone 'oks' putting this man to death, theyre just as bad, killing someone. Nobody should have that say.
 
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Because it's barbaric, and a VERY childish suggestion of which those who aren't very smart tend to suggest. Those who suggest it or see it as 'ok' are very emotionally and morally immature, and have some growing up to do. Let him rot in jail and sit with what he's done, as oppsed to giving him the easy way out. No human has the right to discern whether another lives or dies. Nobody deserves such power. And if someone 'oks' putting this man to death, theyre just as bad, killing someone. Nobody should have that say.
Nope, in this case it's perfectly ok. Wait until it's one of your family. Have some empathy. And if I had my way it wouldn't be the "easy way out."
 

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Nope, in this case it's perfectly ok. Wait until it's one of your family. Have some empathy. And if I had my way it wouldn't be the "easy way out."
Your post goes to show that youre very emotionally and morally immature. Youre wrong. Its like a child trying to say that throwing tantrums at a public park is alright simply because they cant have their ice cream. Youve got some growing up to do.
 

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Because it's barbaric, and a VERY childish suggestion of which those who aren't very smart tend to suggest. Those who suggest it or see it as 'ok' are very emotionally and morally immature, and have some growing up to do. Let him rot in jail and sit with what he's done, as oppsed to giving him the easy way out. No human has the right to discern whether another lives or dies. Nobody deserves such power. And if someone 'oks' putting this man to death, theyre just as bad, killing someone. Nobody should have that say.


I thought @alexander1970 meant we'd better not start a discussion about the murder incident itself. (Not about the death penalty.) I could be wrong though.
 
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This person should be removed from society, I don't think any reform would be possible.
It doesn't matter if you prefer a remote prison island or a guillotine, I'm not up for that discussion.
But this person should be isolated from society.

PS: and quite probably this person has to be mentally ill to behave like this, still needs to be removed from society.

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I mean, I wouldn't shed a tear if someone pushed his ass in front of a train too.

Poor kid, hope the mother is okay. :(
No more pushing into trains. That includes suicide by train.
Of course people think about the kid that died.
But think of passengers and bystanders, and specially the ICE train driver, that would have years to come full of nightmares, traumas and depression.
 

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Security debate after the death of Jacks

After the fatal attack on the Frankfurt main station, the search of the investigators continues after the motive of the suspect. The 40-year-old, who is said to have killed an eight-year-old boy in front of an entering ICE on Monday, has not yet commented on the action. In Germany, the case triggered a broad debate on security in the country.

The German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer (CSU) wants to "in the face of several serious acts in recent times" on Tuesday in Berlin to consult with the chiefs of security agencies. At the meeting, in addition to the attack in Frankfurt to attacks and threats against representatives of the Left Party go to bomb threats against mosques and the racially motivated attack on an Eritrean in Hesse Wächtersbach, reported the news agency dpa.

The 40-year-old is said to have pushed the mother of the killed boy on the track bed and have tried it with another person. The mother had saved herself on a footpath between two tracks. She was taken to hospital with injuries. The third person was able to get to safety without falling on the tracks.

Alleged perpetrator triple father

The suspect, who was arrested after a short escape by passers-by and arrested by the police, is from Eritrea, according to the German Ministry of the Interior. He is married, even father of three children and live since 2006 in Switzerland, said a spokeswoman for the prosecutor on Tuesday in Frankfurt am Main. There was no evidence that the 40-year-old had consumed alcohol or drugs before the act.

Seehofer pointed out on Monday that "in parts of the public" already an assessment of the act will be made. "This is serious, but only possible if the background is cleared up," said the minister.

Police union warns of imitators

The Deputy Federal Chairman of the Union of Police (GdP), Jörg Radek, warned in the meantime before imitators. From major cities such as Berlin, cases of "S and U Bahn Schubsern" have been known for some time. "The police tries to prepare themselves better after each case. However, in actions that are deliberate, it reaches its limits, "Radek told the RND.

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Your post goes to show that youre very emotionally and morally immature. Youre wrong. Its like a child trying to say that throwing tantrums at a public park is alright simply because they cant have their ice cream. Youve got some growing up to do.
Someone disagreeing with your subjective arbitrary morality doesn't make them immature or less intelligent. That assertion is just incorrect.

What would you do to him instead? Keep him in a cozy European prison with all the comforts of home? Wow! That'll show him! Better keep him out of general population to protect him from vigilantes then. It's like telling a kid to go sit in their bedroom and think about what they did, and they start reading a book or playing with toys. It doesn't work.

Maybe he'll plead insanity and get sent to a psych ward and be fed euphoric drugs for the rest of his life. That's a good punishment and deterrent for violent crime.

He will most likely receive the equivalent of manslaughter and not get a life sentence anyway, and will be free to destroy more families in 15-20 years. Yeah, that's really helping society.
 

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