[Poll]American midterm prediction

[Xzi]

actually for all the doom and glood some news channels are portraying this seems to be playing exactly as predicted if not a wee bit better for Dems.
1 out of the 3 doesnt (and strong control over it) doesnt seem bad if you ask me

Hopefully the same pattern as '06 midterm when Dems took the house, then took senate and the presidency in '08. Trump does seem to be repeating many of the same mistakes as GWB, and adding some original mistakes in to the mix as well. Mueller will likely help push things in the right direction.

 

[Hanafuda]

Pretty unexceptional midterm election after all. If this is the great referendum on Trump, it's a resounding 'meh' at best. Look at Obama's first midterm in 2010 for example, Republicans +6 in Senate and +63 in the House. That was a wave election. This one's more of an ooze, but still the Congress is divided so back to good ol' legislative quagmire lol.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

if you ask me this is was a brawl. actually a ton of the races are still to close too close to call at this hour.

 

[Xzi]

Pretty unexceptional midterm election after all. If this is the great referendum on Trump, it's a resounding 'meh' at best. Look at Obama's first midterm in 2010 for example, Republicans +6 in Senate and +63 in the House. That was a wave election. This one's more of an ooze, but still the Congress is divided so back to good ol' legislative quagmire lol.

The biggest referendum on Trump I think is how many women are being elected, especially out of Midwest states that he won solidly in '16.

 

[Clydefrosch]

"voting machines conveniently switching out beto for cruz" is about as explicitly one can describe 'rigged' without using the actual word.

but I didn't.
I didn't say they rigged the machines to do this. I say they have machines that do this (because they do), very convenient thing where a vote as clear as straight ticket doesn't go through as straight ticket for dem voters and is much harder to spot on a glance than for the other side.
and I'm saying they saw no reason to address this clearly fatal flaw with anything more than 'not our problem' (because it's not, it's a good thing for them).

there's a difference between fixing what is hopefully just a coincidentally biased voting machine and downright rigging the voting machine.
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aving said that, with reps hard fight to not improve on any election machine safety and explicit work to remove what little funding there is to ensure uncompromised elections in the us, it also wouldn't be farfetched to expect foul play.

 

[Chary]

Interesting turnout so far. I'm shocked, but also not shocked, at Beto's loss in Texas.

Does anyone know of who the 1 "other party" person is that won a senate seat? The fact that someone out there not tied to the two major parties managed to get somewhere amuses me. (unless he was already an incumbent...? Is it Sanders?)

I expected a larger flip due to all the Democrats who are looking to stake their claim in this post-Trump world. Really close race on so many fronts. It's awesome to know that there were a lot of record breaking voter turnouts, regardless; every vote counts.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

he is independent afaik. so probably yes.
Also may i ask what your take on Beto was? legitimately curious how millenials felt about him in Texas.

 

[brickmii82]

Interesting turnout so far. I'm shocked, but also not shocked, at Beto's loss in Texas.

Does anyone know of who the 1 "other party" person is that won a senate seat? The fact that someone out there not tied to the two major parties managed to get somewhere amuses me. (unless he was already an incumbent...? Is it Sanders?)

I expected a larger flip due to all the Democrats who are looking to stake their claim in this post-Trump world. Really close race on so many fronts. It's awesome to know that there were a lot of record breaking voter turnouts, regardless; every vote counts.

Bernie Sanders.

 

[Chary]

he is independent afaik. so probably yes.
Also may i ask what your take on Beto was? legitimately curious how millenials felt about him in Texas.

1. He's perfect because he's not Cruz.

Kidding aside, he seemed like he had a lot of good ideas, and I liked how he really did try to get out there and make an effort to have a friendly campaign that focused on the people. I'm sure tons of other politicians try that same stuff...but whenever he was on the TV, he just seemed likeable. I wanted to root for him. His stances on Texas schools were great imo, (we need less focus on the standardized tests) as well as his view on term limits (he claimed if he was voted in, he'd only serve limited terms because that's what he truly believes in).

(Also he wants to increase funding for the Pell Grant...and as someone who's to go to college, more grants = yay! lol. Overall, I liked his public+higher education stuff)

The only negative points that really stuck with me were the fact he tried to backpedal on the DUI incident he had. Claiming the police and witnesses got the event wrong rubbed me the wrong way. It's 20 years ago, you were drunk, let it go, it's old news at this point. I'd be more willing (albeit pained) to look past that if he accepted it without the "but...".

And his immigration stances, which kinda leaned into "too lax", for my tastes. Neither him nor Cruz really had a good plan on that one.

I kinda expected a Beto win, purely because Cruz sounds too preachy and he's hard to like, at least, to me. I can see Republicans not caring enough to show up to vote for Cruz, or people flipping because they're tired of him. I don't hate him as a candidate, but I'm not over the moon over his re-election either.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

you sound like a left leaning conservative to me (I kid, I kid)

I do agree though, I want kids to get a better education.(educated kids means a stronger country and a stronger future!)

On my end i dunno... Ted Cruz just seems like a smarmy dude.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts much appreciated!

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Oh, and I suppose other politicians are loving and endearing?

Why do I always see you injecting things that are just simply not there? You do it all the damn time here. The comparison was with Grandpa Munster, not with other politicians. I'll tell you again, you seriously need to work on your reading comprehension.

 

[The Catboy]

1. He's perfect because he's not Cruz.

You just need to end it there. Almost anyone is better than Cruz, Vermin Supreme would be better than Cruz.

 

[DBlaze]

News reports on russia riggin' the elections/midterms/whatever you want to call it when?

 

[Taleweaver]

Is it me, or is Trump (yet again) breaking new grounds of hypocrisy?

Pre-voting, it was all "IT'S ALL DEMOCRATS' FAULT!!!" and "IF DEMOCRATS WIN, EVERYTHING WE DID WILL BE UNDONE!!!". Now that democrats've taken the house, he's calling it "a great success".

but I didn't.
I didn't say they rigged the machines to do this. I say they have machines that do this (because they do), very convenient thing where a vote as clear as straight ticket doesn't go through as straight ticket for dem voters and is much harder to spot on a glance than for the other side.
and I'm saying they saw no reason to address this clearly fatal flaw with anything more than 'not our problem' (because it's not, it's a good thing for them).

there's a difference between fixing what is hopefully just a coincidentally biased voting machine and downright rigging the voting machine.
having said that, with reps hard fight to not improve on any election machine safety and explicit work to remove what little funding there is to ensure uncompromised elections in the us, it also wouldn't be farfetched to expect foul play.

Sorry, but I really have to side with @Hanafuda on this. It certainly baffles me that in this day and age, you still have computers who cannot 100% correctly process a simple task as "vote A or vote B" (top notch country you guys have. A real shining beacon of democracy ). And yeah...with that, it's real easy to see where conspiracy theories regarding vote mingling stem from. But truth is: thus far you've shown nothing that indicates that it directly benefits either side. The way you explain it, I give it as much (or as small) chance that a republican vote goes to democrats as that a democrat vote goes republican.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Is it me, or is Trump (yet again) breaking new grounds of hypocrisy?

Pre-voting, it was all "IT'S ALL DEMOCRATS' FAULT!!!" and "IF DEMOCRATS WIN, EVERYTHING WE DID WILL BE UNDONE!!!". Now that democrats've taken the house, he's calling it "a great success".


Sorry, but I really have to side with @Hanafuda on this. It certainly baffles me that in this day and age, you still have computers who cannot 100% correctly process a simple task as "vote A or vote B" (top notch country you guys have. A real shining beacon of democracy ). And yeah...with that, it's real easy to see where conspiracy theories regarding vote mingling stem from. But truth is: thus far you've shown nothing that indicates that it directly benefits either side. The way you explain it, I give it as much (or as small) chance that a republican vote goes to democrats as that a democrat vote goes republican.

Then you didnt read. The machines in question sometimes changed beto for Cruz when voting straight dem.
But when voting straight rep, they would sometimes leave the thing blank, meaning no rep vote would accidentally go to beto ever and a blank spot is also much easier to notice and correct.

 

[Taleweaver]

Then you didnt read. The machines in question sometimes changed beto for Cruz when voting straight dem.
But when voting straight rep, they would sometimes leave the thing blank, meaning no rep vote would accidentally go to beto ever and a blank spot is also much easier to notice and correct.

I stand corrected. I hadn't read the full article you linked to. Sorry.

 

[emigre]

I stand corrected. I hadn't read the full article you linked to. Sorry.

Sounds like they should just use paper and pen like here in blighty.

 

[KingVamp]

Both relieved and disappointed.

 

[SG854]

1. He's perfect because he's not Cruz.

Kidding aside, he seemed like he had a lot of good ideas, and I liked how he really did try to get out there and make an effort to have a friendly campaign that focused on the people. I'm sure tons of other politicians try that same stuff...but whenever he was on the TV, he just seemed likeable. I wanted to root for him. His stances on Texas schools were great imo, (we need less focus on the standardized tests) as well as his view on term limits (he claimed if he was voted in, he'd only serve limited terms because that's what he truly believes in).

(Also he wants to increase funding for the Pell Grant...and as someone who's to go to college, more grants = yay! lol. Overall, I liked his public+higher education stuff)

The only negative points that really stuck with me were the fact he tried to backpedal on the DUI incident he had. Claiming the police and witnesses got the event wrong rubbed me the wrong way. It's 20 years ago, you were drunk, let it go, it's old news at this point. I'd be more willing (albeit pained) to look past that if he accepted it without the "but...".

And his immigration stances, which kinda leaned into "too lax", for my tastes. Neither him nor Cruz really had a good plan on that one.

I kinda expected a Beto win, purely because Cruz sounds too preachy and he's hard to like, at least, to me. I can see Republicans not caring enough to show up to vote for Cruz, or people flipping because they're tired of him. I don't hate him as a candidate, but I'm not over the moon over his re-election either.

Have you seen this discussion? There seems to be many people supporting Cruz. TBH I don’t really know much about him or Beto. I’m like out of it when it comes to these two guys. I know Ted from Lyin’ Ted thanks to Trump. And this commercial. It seems like Beto is very far left. And Cruz obviously right.

Some people were going crazy against Kavanaugh calling him an alcoholic and using that saying he’s not fit for politics, which I personally don’t see as a big deal because that’s what people do when they’re young, get drunk. Beto was arrested for DWI and Burglary. I would find it hypocritical if the same people went against Kavanaugh because of him drinking beer but not against Beto that did far worse.

 

[the_randomizer]

Another day, another toxic pile that is politics.