UK police warns those who post "hate crime" and threatens users with "criminal offences"

[TotalInsanity4]

It's because Europe and USA have radically different definitions of "opinions". Right-wing people in Europe are almost centrists in the US. So when US people learn about the european definition of free speech, they say it's censorship, while it's really not, it's just a matter pf preventing people from saying "gays are mentally ill", or "Muslims are all terrorists" etc, which would be unacceptable even for european alt-right. Here free speech doesn't cover hate speech, and I think that's good.

Actually, the super far right is moving towards the "Muslims are all potential terrorists" thing

 

[DinohScene]

Want to stop hatecrimes?
Ban religion.

 

[emigre]

Can someone explain to me what the message behind this thread is meant to be?

 

[th3joker]

Eof... Seriously do u watch the news and hide inside all day in fear of the outside world?

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Eof... Seriously do u watch the news and hide inside all day in fear of the outside world?

You say that as though that isn't why FOX news still exists today

 

[th3joker]

You say that as though that isn't why FOX news still exists today

I dont watch news so i dont relate

 

[Vipera]

This post has been removed due to the staff's corruption to money and other people.

 

[CallmeBerto]

It's because Europe and USA have radically different definitions of "opinions". Right-wing people in Europe are almost centrists in the US. So when US people learn about the european definition of free speech, they say it's censorship, while it's really not, it's just a matter pf preventing people from saying "gays are mentally ill", or "Muslims are all terrorists" etc, which would be unacceptable even for european alt-right. Here free speech doesn't cover hate speech, and I think that's good.

I don't think anyone is defending people who say these cappy things. However I will defend their right to say it. Don't like it? Call them out and debate them under the table on the market place of ideas. This is what I defend not what they say.

 

[Nightwish]

Right-wing people in Europe are almost centrists in the US.

They were, but not anymore. Your president, for example, is not centrist by any definition, he's a staunch neo-liberal tool who'll extend state of emergency powers for the foreseeable future

 

[TotalInsanity4]

They were, but not anymore. Your president, for example, is not centrist by any definition, he's a staunch neo-liberal tool who'll extend state of emergency powers for the foreseeable future

Erm

 

[Nightwish]

Want to stop hatecrimes?
Ban religion.

And how's that going to protect women, gays, blacks, asians and arabs, exactly? Bigots will be bigots.
Also, free speech and all that.

 

[CallmeBerto]

They were, but not anymore. Your president, for example, is not centrist by any definition, he's a staunch neo-liberal tool who'll extend state of emergency powers for the foreseeable future

No...to all that nonsense. I mean for the love of Rai there are less regulations in place now then there were 6 months ago.

 

[smf]

If I say "kill all muslims" I should be prosecuted, but if I say "Islam is dangerous" I shouldn't. Yet this could still be seen as hate speech.

In the UK you cannot be found guilty of hate speech for criticising a religion. If the police and cps take a dislike to you then you might find yourself in court, but it doesn't mean you'll be found guilty. That is down to what a "reasonable person" would think.

There was an interesting blasphemy case 10 years ago, which came to a similar conclusion.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2007/dec/05/independentproductioncompanies.bbc

Our law system is based on a continual feeding back of decisions to interpret what is right and wrong. Politicians pass acts that try to influence the process, but they are often found themselves to be unlawful.

Black and white thinkers have a real problem as they think it's all so simple, but law is not simple at all.

 

[DinohScene]

And how's that going to protect women, gays, blacks, asians and arabs, exactly? Bigots will be bigots.
Also, free speech and all that.

Exactly, free speech.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

No...to all that nonsense. I mean for the love of Rai there are less regulations in place now then there were 6 months ago.

He was referring to the French President, Macron

Also fewer regulations =/= a Good Thing

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

They were, but not anymore. Your president, for example, is not centrist by any definition, he's a staunch neo-liberal tool who'll extend state of emergency powers for the foreseeable future

Errrr, nope, the state of emergency will be disabled by November, and Macron is a centrist despite what you want.

 

[dAVID_]

What they're trying to do is impossible.
Does the DMCA make a manhunt for every user that downloads a GBA rom? No! Same here.
They will only attend major cases like 'Hahaha I raped your sister' kind of tweets, not the
'U suck LMAO kys lololol' tweets.

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

What they're trying to do is impossible.
Does the DMCA make a manhunt for every user that downloads a GBA rom? No! Same here.
They will only attend major cases like 'Hahaha I raped your sister' kind of tweets, not the
'U suck LMAO kys lololol' tweets.

Quite accurate.

 

[barronwaffles]

If free speech doesn't cover 'hate speech' then what exactly is it defending?

 

[dAVID_]

Quite accurate.

But that's not all! Hard-Core Christian/Catholic/Muslim citizens will start asking the police
to censor things like Science, free sexual orientation, and anything that violates
their beliefs. Of course, they won't listen to them, but just imagine the chaos!