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Well, I'm gonna see what happens. And let's not talk about who and who isn't politically illiterate here, let's just not go down that rabbit hole.
We might as well, because it's just gonna end in arguments and mudslinging eventually. You don't see anybody posting a "liberal news corner thread," do you? That's because this entire section is for news. If you want to actually discuss a certain story or article, make a thread about it and people will discuss it. Making a thread with no specific topic, only for the general purpose of posting tabloid-esque bullshit and alt-right propaganda, is always going to cause a flaming wreck.
 

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Mostly sharing and pointing the hypocrisy of the left, some of the right, and the media news outlets with news and stories they ted to ignore.
Right, but that's not actually accomplishing anything.

If they said "I'm going to go fishing" but just went and bought something from the store...well, sure, that's hypocrisy. but who cares.

If they said "I'm going to support gun-rights" and then voted against that, sure, that's hypocrisy, but doesn't further the discussion on the US constitution's second amendment. It only informs those who have already made up their mind on the issue. Plus, you know, that's pretty US centric.

Why not "this politician said gun-rights were a human right, but is that true tho? What makes a human right a human right anyway" instead?

My point being, rather than just pointing out hypocrisy, why not actually talk about the issues, why they're important, and how you measure success or failure. I realize that's more work but that's kind of the point of a mega-thread, correct? to generate something of value?

I feel like discussions like this should have a primer for "how to properly evaluate news articles for validity", as well as what all the different political terms mean.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#:~:text=Donald Trump, the former president,25 women since the 1970s.
25+ allegations.

Both of em suck but one of them sucks a bit more so you really shouldn't be throwing stones in a glass house.
Considering you're using wikipedia and not actual hard proof sources, you bet your hiney I have a lot to say on this. We got videos of Joe Biden putting his hands all over kids, and not in a good way. Have anything the same for Trump other than "she said, he said"?

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We might as well, because it's just gonna end in arguments and mudslinging eventually. You don't see anybody posting a "liberal news corner thread," do you? That's because this entire section is for news. If you want to actually discuss a certain story or article, make a thread about it and people will discuss it. Making a thread with no specific topic, only for the general purpose of posting tabloid-esque bullshit and alt-right propaganda, is always going to cause a flaming wreck.
Well if the mods don't like it they can close it, that's all.

Right, but that's not actually accomplishing anything.

If they said "I'm going to go fishing" but just went and bought something from the store...well, sure, that's hypocrisy. but who cares.

If they said "I'm going to support gun-rights" and then voted against that, sure, that's hypocrisy, but doesn't further the discussion on the US constitution's second amendment. It only informs those who have already made up their mind on the issue. Plus, you know, that's pretty US centric.

Why not "this politician said gun-rights were a human right, but is that true tho? What makes a human right a human right anyway" instead?

My point being, rather than just pointing out hypocrisy, why not actually talk about the issues, why they're important, and how you measure success or failure. I realize that's more work but that's kind of the point of a mega-thread, correct? to generate something of value?
Pointing out the hypocrisy is and can lead to talking about the issues instead of just, you know, ignoring it. You need to point something about first most of the time in order to talk about it, every issue and whether or not people want to talk about has an origin. If you don't believe that, fine, but I'm gonna try my best here.
 
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Pointing out the hypocrisy is and can lead to talking about the issues instead of just, you know, ignoring it.
This forum's leftists are already well aware of the hypocrisy within the Democratic party. And the staunch liberals aren't gonna listen to the pot calling the kettle black when it comes to hypocrisy, bud. Trump is a walking contradiction and his followers twist their brains in knots trying to justify that.
 

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This forum's leftists are already well aware of the hypocrisy within the Democratic party. And the staunch liberals aren't gonna listen to the pot calling the kettle black when it comes to hypocrisy, bud. Trump is a walking contradiction and his followers twist their brains in knots trying to justify that.
From what I've seen, that is a big lie that they are aware. And you could say the same thing about Joe Biden, except in that case it would actually be true.
 

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I suppose when everyone reasonable is telling you you're wrong, it's important to create a large quantity of poor sources that artificially make it seem like you have something to say.

From what I've seen, that is a big lie that they are aware. And you could say the same thing about Joe Biden, except in that case it would actually be true.
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From what I've seen, that is a big lie that they are aware. And you could say the same thing about Joe Biden, except in that case it would actually be true.
We're aware. Joe Biden is a neoliberal who throws progressives a tidbit now and then, he's not that complicated. And nobody's hailing him as the greatest president ever. It's just that even a literal turd is a breath of fresh air after Trump's been in the room.
 

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I suppose when everyone reasonable is telling you you're wrong, it's important to create a large quantity of poor sources that artificially make it seem like you have something to say.

That's subjective. Who's to say they are reasonable? It's equally likely they aren't. Just because you agree with the crowd doesn't make them right.

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For once, something we can agree with I think.

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We're aware. Joe Biden is a neoliberal who throws progressives a tidbit now and then, he's not that complicated. And nobody's hailing him as the greatest president ever. It's just that even a literal turd is a breath of fresh air after Trump's been in the room.
Yes, because the man destroying the country now is so MUCH better than the man who tried to rebuild single handedly and almost did despite 90% of the government and the deep state against him and trying to sabotage his every move.
 

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Yes, because the man destroying the country now is so MUCH better than the man who tried to rebuild single handedly and almost did despite 90% of the government and the deep state against him and trying to sabotage his every move.
The man in charge now isn't responsible for a failed pandemic response that cost us more than 500,000 American lives in just one year. Trump was always going to be unprepared to handle any real national emergency during his term, but honestly even I had hoped he wasn't going to be THAT unprepared. If a president, any president, fucks up that badly and remains in office, our democracy is no longer functioning properly.
 

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The man in charge now isn't responsible for a failed pandemic response that cost us more than 500,000 American lives in just one year. Trump was always going to be unprepared to handle any real national emergency during his term, but honestly even I had hoped he wasn't going to be THAT unprepared. If a president, any president, fucks up that badly and remains in office, our democracy is no longer functioning properly.
He knew about the virus and the dems and mainstream media tried to sweep it under the rug, then they used it for totalitarian lockdowns and control. Trump knew about the virus and wanted to tell people in a calm way, but then they blamed him for everything when THEY'RE the ones that fucked up. Our president didn't fail us, it was the corrupt politicians and the sheep who followed them who did. You can believe whatever you want, but that is the truth. They fought with him and blamed him in all their fuck ups instead of backing him up and owning to their mistakes.
 

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He knew about the virus and the dems and mainstream media tried to sweep it under the rug
What we have on recorded video tells a very different story, sorry. News outlets were reporting on it for months before Trump said anything, and when he did it was just to downplay case counts.

Our president didn't fail us
He did. Very specifically, he failed his own supporters most of all. Biden would not have won Georgia if not for so many Republicans there dying of COVID.
 

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What we have on recorded video tells a very different story, sorry. News outlets were reporting on it for months before Trump said anything, and when he did it was just to downplay case counts.


He did. Very specifically, he failed his own supporters most of all. Biden would not have won Georgia if not for so many Republicans there dying of COVID.
You mean the recording talking to his buddies that I'm sure we all do and said, and maybe even said worse? Oh yeah, what a monster. He did not fail his supporters, and as for Georgia and covid and the election, well, those are entire sections of discussion for themselves.
 

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You mean the recording talking to his buddies that I'm sure we all do and said, and maybe even said worse?
Uhh no, I was talking about the video logs of 2020, daily news and such.

He did not fail his supporters
So you clearly didn't click the link, then. We have hard data showing that he did.

as for Georgia and covid and the election, well, those are entire sections of discussion for themselves.
Well it's a good thing this thread has no specific topic of discussion then, right? :ha:
 

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Uhh no, I was talking about the video logs of 2020, daily news and such.


So you clearly didn't click the link, then. We have hard data showing that he did.


Well it's a good thing this thread has no specific topic of discussion then, right? :ha:
Considering how there's also data showing states like Texas, having pretty much no covid death, and states like New York, which were locked down and had tons of deaths, I'm sorry I don't quite believe the source you posted. And what did he say in video logs of 2020? That he admitted the allegations or something? Cause I like to see that.
And hey, not saying the election was stolen and that Joe Biden did it, considering he can't even remember his own name, but it's highly suspicious why people don't want us looking into the "cleanest election of all time" if they have nothing to hide, even though we do have every right to, law and everything. Just because some don't agree doesn't mean we can't do it or that it's not gonna happen.

And you still have a 99.99% chance of surviving covid, but it's your choice to be scared of almost nothing.
 

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Texas, having pretty much no covid death
Man you'll really believe anything, huh?

And what did he say in video logs of 2020? That he admitted the allegations or something? Cause I like to see that.
No, it just backs the timeline of the news reporting on COVID way before Trump mentioned it, and his downplaying of the virus in the early days. Paraphrasing, he said something like, "fourteen cases, soon to be zero" when they were holding people with COVID on a docked cruise liner. Of course the virus was already in a bunch of states by then, our testing was way behind the curve.

And hey, not saying the election was stolen and that Joe Biden did it, considering he can't even remember his own name, but it's highly suspicious why people don't want us looking into the "cleanest election of all time" if they have nothing to hide, even though we do have every right to, law and everything.
Us is the operative word there, you and I both know the people running these recent audits are partisan nutjobs and conspiracy theorists entirely in Trump's corner. Proper recounts and audits are conducted by independent and/or bipartisan organizations. Otherwise their "findings" cannot be relied upon as accurate or worthwhile.

And you still have a 99.99% chance of surviving covid, but it's your choice to be scared of almost nothing.
500K dead is 500K dead, no matter how you try to minimize that with other (false) statistics. Terrorist organizations can only dream of achieving that kind of kill count.
 
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We got videos of Joe Biden putting his hands all over kids, and not in a good way.
And? I'll take it at face value. What does that change? Does that somehow make Trump's involvement with Epstein better? No?
Okay then, so what's your argument? No leftists (leftists do not equal liberal) likes Biden.

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Considering how there's also data showing states like Texas, having pretty much no covid death
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I mean. Unless your telling me that fifty thousand (50,426 to be exact) deaths is "no covid death" which idk. that's quite a lot.
I would post the link but currently can't. too low level. (just look texas covid 19 data. Should bring you to texas's covid19 data website. and download fatalities by county. scroll down, and all the way to the right to see the current amount of total deaths)

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Oh and to everyone who thought I was dead. I took a long vacation. decided to change names, realized I couldn't because no name change ability. So here we are now with a new account.
 
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The aim of this thread is, if I don't slack, to post videos and news from conservative commentators that I watch and like and see what others think.
So...you want to use the political discussion forum section to post clickbait youtube videos rather than formulate your own opinions?

Sure...whatever. I'm not a moderator. I'm dead against it, but ey...I don't mind ignoring this thread like I did with the "Biden is now the president" thread(1).
But lemme ask you this: would you be interested if I barfed up what's in my political youtube suggestions, with little more than a "DISCUSS!!!" at the end?
For reference: this shit is currently in my suggestion box regarding US politics:
* poll: 28% of republicans believe core Q-anon beliefs
* Ted Cruz humiliates himself with misstep live on Fox
* Trump Sliding Dramatically Toward Online Irrelevance
* Republicans Panic As Bide Fails To Anger Their Base

I ain't going to watch it all myself, so I don't try to push it to others. At best, I write a blog post about it that mostly everyone else ignores. But ey...you go ahead with your opinion.

I've noticed this place is like, 85% liberal, 15% conservative,
Ugh. In case you're wondering why this 'll be my last post in this thread: it's because of this bullshit. "I'm a conservative and everyone disagreeing with me is liberal"...is that the sort of binary divide those commenters teach you?
I'm not a fucking liberal. I'm a socialist with tendencies towards ecology. Liberals and the democratic party (yes, including Biden) are too rightwing for my taste. It just doesn't show as much because the discussion on US territory is usually between "the right" and "extreme right pretending to be civil".



(1): okay, I'm not entirely honest. I checked it once in a week or so, just to see if it was still a dumpster fire. It always was
 

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Mostly sharing and pointing the hypocrisy of the left,

Isn't it hypocritical to point out hypocrisy when everyone is hypocritical?

The left isn't more hypocritical, the contradictions in the people you support just appear to make sense to you because you support them. It's basic human psychology.

I don't know how those on the right square the hypocrisy between pro life, anti immigration & pro death penalty. To me it's an example of black and white thinking, which is an indication of many mental health issues.

Centrists endlessly argue over how one is more important than the other, which makes them seem a weaker option but it allows society to evolve. If you have rigid thinking (another indication of mental health issues) then you're not going to like that.

It's quite common for people to shift from the left when they are younger to the right when they are older, which could either be experience or due to decline in mental function.
 
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Tim Pool is not a leftist in any sense of the word lmao
Not far left.
But he’s not conservative socially or economically.
he believes in progressive tax, he believes in socialized healthcare, regulations and restrictions on businesses.
Unless you’re arguing that those are conservative/right wing issues now I think the fairest assessment of his political alignment is center left libertarian.
 
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