What would become of the UK/England..

[CoolMe]

...Now that the Queen is dead?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61585886

 

[Veho]

Nothing really. Some of the fascination with the royal family might wane because none of her heirs and successors has the presence good old Liz 2 had, but not much else will happen. I doubt they will abolish the monarchy or something.

But I've been wrong before.

 

[Viri]

It's not the 1500's, she was just a figure head, that had almost no say.

 

[elpapadelospollitos]

The monarchy ends, it's wealth is redistributed to the people, global poverty levels decrease dramatically

 

[KingVamp]

Are there even any plans, if the monarchy suddenly ends?

 

[Dave_Chad]

King Charles the Third now. That's it.

 

[Taleweaver]

What I'm curious about: what is the actual power of the royal house in the first place?

I know she was old, but I've never even heard a peep from Elizabeth on covid or the whole brexit saga (i might be missing a very neutral statement).

I'm not from the UK, but if it's anything like Belgium, it's just a ceremonial rule. Perhaps politically a catalysator, but not a force at all.
But again: I'm not from the uk so i don't know.

 

[pustal]

What I'm curious about: what is the actual power of the royal house in the first place?

I know she was old, but I've never even heard a peep from Elizabeth on covid or the whole brexit saga (i might be missing a very neutral statement).

I'm not from the UK, but if it's anything like Belgium, it's just a ceremonial rule. Perhaps politically a catalysator, but not a force at all.
But again: I'm not from the uk so i don't know.

Yup, just cerimonial. Here's a short read. The crown has basically reduced to a symbol for the people and and an embassador figure for external relationships. I'd say it is still sustain because the British state actually profits from it in two fronts:

- the lands of the crown profit directly to the State at an exchange for a salary of sorts;

- tourism: it sells mugs and pins and brings people to London and Endinburg and wherever there are monarchy estates and cerimonies.

I don't mean to be derrogarory, btw, just expressing my thoughts.

 

[Zajumino]

They ought to make me the king. I would probably do a better job at it anyways.

If not me, then Mr. Bean.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

If it became a Republic, a massive improvement.

 

[pustal]

If it became a Republic, a massive improvement.

For the king and his role, what benefit would be to the country? The country would simply lose income.

The only think the ought to change woul be to abolish the House of Lords or make it fully ceremonial as well.

 

[Xzi]

I doubt anything changes since the royal family is just a vestigial institution at this point. Does the UK need to keep handing them taxpayer money for nothing? No. Do its citizens seem perfectly content with continuing to doing so? Yes.

 

[pustal]

I doubt anything changes since the royal family is just a vestigial institution at this point. Does the UK need to keep handing them taxpayer money for nothing? No. Do its citizens seem perfectly content with continuing to doing so? Yes.

Like I said above, the government actually benefits monetarily from the crown. The crown's lands profit directly to the State, £160M a year if the value still maintains:

 

[Xzi]

Like I said above, the government actually benefits monetarily from the crown. The crown's lands profit directly to the State, £160M a year if the value still maintains:

I'll not argue with these numbers, but I will say that the queen dying has shown a lot of the land "owned" by the crown would rather find new ownership, as it was improperly seized via colonialism and imperialism to begin with. For that matter, calls for reparations are also picking up a lot of steam.

With Brexit the UK declared they'd rather withdraw into their own little bubble, but that being the case, logic dictates lands outside of that bubble should no longer be accessible to them as a playground, royalty or no.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

For the king and his role, what benefit would be to the country? The country would simply lose income

Nonsense. The monarchy is a drain on uk finances, the places associated with it would be even more successful without royals. I don't see Versailles, Caserta or Schoenbrunn suffer because of the lack of royalty inhabiting them.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

not argue with these numbers, but I will say that the queen dying has shown a lot of the land "owned" by the crown would rather find new ownership, as it was improperly seized via colonialism and imperialism to begin with.

"King" Charles is one of the scummiest landlords ever.

 

[FAST6191]

I'll not argue with these numbers, but I will say that the queen dying has shown a lot of the land "owned" by the crown would rather find new ownership, as it was improperly seized via colonialism and imperialism to begin with. For that matter, calls for reparations are also picking up a lot of steam.

With Brexit the UK declared they'd rather withdraw into their own little bubble, but that being the case, logic dictates lands outside of that bubble should no longer be accessible to them as a playground, royalty or no.

Crown land outside the UK (for the most part that means Canada and Australia) is more a synonym for government land anyway (think federal land in the US, https://i1.wp.com/sitn.hms.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Fig1.png for those not familiar, but more readily given up in some cases).
Crown owned land within the UK would be a whole other kettle of fish, and also involve a lot of the upper classes as it would make for the better part of a millennium of history to unpack as a lot will still have claims going back to 1066 and aftermath thereof, to say nothing of the general notions of adverse possession that is fairly key in historical common law.

Brexit as far as bubble could be argued, however just as many would say it is more of a rebuke of the EU rather than an isolationist streak or removal from the commonwealth as a concept. Now I don't particularly rate the chances of CANZUK (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK) actually amounting to more than a simplification of tourist, student and 20 something working holiday visas and possibly some military intelligence sharing (which they largely already do, training standards and protocols also tend to match).

 

[Xzi]

Crown land outside the UK (for the most part that means Canada and Australia) is more a synonym for government land anyway (think federal land in the US, https://i1.wp.com/sitn.hms.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Fig1.png for those not familiar, but more readily given up in some cases).
Crown owned land within the UK would be a whole other kettle of fish, and also involve a lot of the upper classes as it would make for the better part of a millennium of history to unpack as a lot will still have claims going back to 1066 and aftermath thereof, to say nothing of the general notions of adverse possession that is fairly key in historical common law.

Brexit as far as bubble could be argued, however just as many would say it is more of a rebuke of the EU rather than an isolationist streak or removal from the commonwealth as a concept. Now I don't particularly rate the chances of CANZUK (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK) actually amounting to more than a simplification of tourist, student and 20 something working holiday visas and possibly some military intelligence sharing (which they largely already do, training standards and protocols also tend to match).

What of the Caribbean?

 

[FAST6191]

What of the Caribbean?

That happens every 5 weeks or so for the last however many years now. Some did, some didn't, some just use it to agitate for something else.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Brexit as far as bubble could be argued, however just as many would say it is more of a rebuke of the EU rather than an isolationist streak or removal from the commonwealth as a concept

Nope, as someone who's been living through it since the beginning, it's a wankfest of Little Englander racist c***s who were duped by a conman. Besides, rebuke of the EU by driving the UK to the ground all by itself? That's some serious mis-aimed rebuke all right.