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Showing us that you prefer to see an apple pie as a tool to masturbate speaks more about you than it does about apple pies. The same logic can be applied to how you perceive Tiki Torches. You previously mentioned that they are a symbol, but you ignore the necessity of an agreement. I'm sorry if not accepting the tiki torch as a symbol of Nazi fascism doesn't bode for you. At least you can agree with others who give Nazis a platform, or worse, LARP as Nazis.

Wow, you love to make assumptions about cultures you know nothing about. The Japanese people haaaaaaaaaaaate them. They're marginalized for a reason. They have their right to speech, but no serious political party would ever work with them.

I'm not speaking of sentiment toward Uyoku Dantai. I'm speaking about a foreigner flipping off political activists and trying to start a fight. You are entering another culture and assuming you know better than everyone else. We don't flip off Uyoku Dantai because that encourages menace for everyone. But you do it for everyone. It's very brave. Thank you. Hopefully our kids do not suffer the consequences of your actions. You wouldn't do it in front of your kids, because they are innocent and shouldn't be exposed to you being "civil"?

You want to divorce language from culture, but please get accustomed to the phrase 失礼します。You are an internet tough guy and a POS. Nice chat.
 
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One of these days, I am going to learn how to use multi-quotes.

I still don't know how to forum.

Make sure BB code is toggled off, go to the comment, like yours above and hit enter to break the line, splitting it into multiple quotes. Like this

One of these days, I am going to learn how to use multi-quotes.

I hit enter between the two.

I still don't know how to forum.

If you are unsure how I posted your quote, you highlight what you want to quote, and click the popup balloon to "quote". It adds it into the clipboard which can store many quotes. So when you go to post a reply, you can therefore click "insert quotes" (at the bottom) and then organize them as you see fit.

For example:

the Lincoln project used it as symbolism

I really don't have the energy

we are all domestic terrorists
 
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Showing us that you prefer to see an apple pie as a tool to masturbate speaks more about you than it does about apple pies. The same logic can be applied to how you perceive Tiki Torches. You previously mentioned that they are a symbol, but you ignore the necessity of an agreement. I'm sorry if not accepting the tiki torch as a symbol of Nazi fascism doesn't bode for you. At least you can agree with others who give Nazis a platform, or worse, LARP as Nazis.
LOL, once again putting words in my mouth. At what point did I say that I prefer to see apple pie as a masturbation tool? Just remember: YOU were the one who chose that as an example. You could have chosen ANYTHING else, but your mind went back to the movie American Pie, where that image stuck with you. YOU! Your own example undercut your own position. Tell me, why is that apple pie on the cover of the movie itself it they didn't want that image to stick? Seriously man, you could have chosen any other two things that have no connection, and you chose THAT one.
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I'm not speaking of sentiment toward Uyoku Dantai. I'm speaking about a foreigner flipping off political activists and trying to start a fight. You are entering another culture and assuming you know better than everyone else. We don't flip off Uyoku Dantai because that encourages menace for everyone. But you do it for everyone. It's very brave. Thank you. Hopefully our kids do not suffer the consequences of your actions. You wouldn't do it in front of your kids, because they are innocent and shouldn't be exposed to you being "civil"?

You want to divorce language from culture, but please get accustomed to the phrase 失礼します。You are an internet tough guy and a POS. Nice chat.

That is some epic, EPIC level of pearl clutching! I hope you didn't snap your necklace with all that clutching. What makes it even more hilarious is that you somehow found a way to circle it back to YOUR kids potentially being exposed to consequences. That's a level of living in fear that I can only look at and feel a deep sense of pity for.

This really comes back to the crux of our disagreement:
You believe that I, someone who no matter which country I am in, will not stand for racism or bigotry, is a POS for standing against it. I'll concede that I'm an opinionated ass, but I'm not an ass for standing up against bigotry.

Whereas you are inclined to keep your head down and not rock the boat. You believe that if I don't like the 右翼団体, I should simply leave the country. With that level of logic, should immigrants to the US leave because white supremacists exist? Just another dumb leap of logic.

I don't do it in front of my kids because I prefer them to live without knowing that type of hate is out there. Eventually, I'll have to teach them about how people will not like them just because of who they are. From there, I'll teach them how to stand up for themselves.

I'll continue to live my life with my head held high. You can continue living your life in the fetal position.
 

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LOL, once again putting words in my mouth. At what point did I say that I prefer to see apple pie as a masturbation tool?

I compared Tiki Torches to being as symbolic as Apple Pies to communicate the similar potency and function of them as symbols in the context of social agreement. I am aware of the movie, which is why I chose it. You should also have some common sense seeing that crude sex comedy isn't the lens in which everybody sees Apple Pie. I don't know if that's too nuanced for you, but that was my point. So you ignoring the point, and insisting the legitimacy of apple pie as a symbol for masturbation is exactly what you did. You do it with Tiki Torches, as did the Lincoln Project. Actions speak.

That is some epic, EPIC level of pearl clutching! I hope you didn't snap your necklace with all that clutching. What makes it even more hilarious is that you somehow found a way to circle it back to YOUR kids potentially being exposed to consequences. That's a level of living in fear that I can only look at and feel a deep sense of pity for.

"Our kids" have to deal with the consequences of the political landscape that we catalyze. Maybe you wanted a reason to say that don't care about kids if they are mine, so you went with "pearl clutching". Oh well. Anyway, kids were a concern that you demonstrated an interest in, and you might be proud, but you catalyze the actual problem to make it worse for them, again, even if you want to pretend your kids are the only ones that exist. It's regrettable that you can't imagine how natives would see a foreigner flipping off political activists who don't like foreigners, and how that nets a greater impact on society than your gonads. It's more potent than Apple Pie, in Japan, to see a foreigner reducing themselves to the worst of political activism. It might be racist to block foreigners from entering Japan, but when you present yourself as an unpredictable and uncontrolled radical in juxtaposition with a relatively controlled radical, the type of impact you have is predictable, you lose support. You want to present ultimatums to people because you are edgy and a tough guy. You are looking for a fight, but you are your biggest obstacle.

The point I'm trying to make is that your existence is relatively small and harmless. You try to gain relevance in trying to piss (potentially?) dangerous people off and giving them some benefit of the rhetoric by engaging in an argument. The problem is that you are arguing to embellish the conflict, strengthening both of your positions, and not really presenting a path forward out of what you see is a problem. You are against bigotry. Great. You suggested that you were doing it for your kids, lol.

I question why brag about flipping off Uyoku dantai? You obviously felt safe and protected enough. What is your end-game? Public freakouts, instigating gangs, and feeling important? What you say you don't want and how you act communicates a mixed message or someone of a low intelligence who thinks "solving" bigotry would be as easy as gassing the nazis.

I'm seeing the pattern that you aren't interested and reading or responding to what I'm actually writing. I'm not going to change you. I'm not afraid. I'm positively energized by your amazing lack of self-awareness. You are like @Xzi, but actually admit being a nuisance in public.

I'm not gonna read all this shit, and by now I can safely assume you're on the wrong side of nearly every political debate.

So, the usual, old man?


@titan_tim:

While you are actually chasing short-term self-esteem rewards and introducing (only your) kids into the justification. Let me post something that doesn't come from me, specifically. Maybe you can agree with it on virtue of it not being me.

ChatGPT:

Engaging in pointless arguments and jeering toward fringe political groups can have varying effects and outcomes, and it is essential to consider the context and your specific goals. While it may be tempting to confront or challenge such groups, it is worth evaluating the potential consequences and whether it aligns with your desired outcomes.

  1. Attention and publicity: Fringe political groups often thrive on attention and controversy. Engaging in arguments or jeering may provide them with the attention they seek, potentially increasing their visibility and platform. It is important to consider whether this is the outcome you desire, as it may inadvertently amplify their message or attract more supporters.
  2. Polarization and radicalization: Pointless arguments and jeering may further polarize discussions and contribute to an "us vs. them" mentality. This polarization can reinforce the group's sense of identity and potentially drive their supporters closer together. It may also lead to further radicalization of their members or those sympathetic to their cause.
  3. Constructive dialogue and education: Engaging in meaningful discussions and promoting education can be a more effective approach to challenge fringe political groups. By providing well-reasoned arguments, presenting alternative perspectives, and fostering dialogue, you have a greater chance of influencing individuals who may be open to different viewpoints. This approach focuses on understanding, empathy, and critical thinking rather than personal attacks or pointless arguments.
  4. Other forms of action: Instead of engaging in pointless arguments, you may consider channeling your energy and efforts into constructive actions that promote your own values and beliefs. This can include supporting organizations or initiatives that advocate for positive change, promoting inclusivity and tolerance, and engaging in meaningful civic participation.
Ultimately, the decision to engage with fringe political groups and how you choose to do so should be guided by your own principles, goals, and an evaluation of the potential outcomes. It is important to consider long-term strategies that prioritize understanding, empathy, and positive change rather than simply reacting in the moment.
 
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We should kill all the communists like 1933. They are a threat national threat to the country.

Yeah, I don't think so. I'd rather stand back and watch the Communists and Nazis kill each other, and then ask them if they got what they wanted, like a normal person might.
 

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Yeah, I don't think so. I'd rather stand back and watch the Communists and Nazis kill each other, and then ask them if they got what they wanted, like a normal person might.
Wait so you don't support Nick Fuente's effort to save America?
Then what the fuck are you doing you liberal piece of shit.
 

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Wait so you don't support Nick Fuente's effort to save America?
Then what the fuck are you doing you liberal piece of shit.

I don't know who he is. I don't know if I support him or not. Maybe I am misreading, but I don't think labelling a population of intentionally dumbed down people as "communists" and then killing them is going to fix the education problem.
 

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I don't know who he is. I don't know if I support him or not. Maybe I am misreading, but I don't think labelling a population of intentionally dumbed down people as "communists" and then killing them is going to fix the education problem.
it will, they control the education system with the Jews and the woke lgbtq pedophiles. Their ideology has poisoned society and the only solution is to get rid of them.

If you do nothing short of that then your just a fucking rhino, and we don't like rhinos.
 

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Yeah, I don't think so. I'd rather stand back and watch the Communists and Nazis kill each other, and then ask them if they got what they wanted, like a normal person might.
Normal people don't play the "both sides" and "whataboutism" cards with fascism, they just acknowledge as a major problem of its own. The US, which spends the vast majority of federal funds on corporate welfare and the military, has never been in any danger of a Communist takeover.

Wait so you don't support Nick Fuente's effort to save America?
Then what the fuck are you doing you liberal piece of shit.
Did I call it or what?
Republicans have taken the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy as far right as it can possibly go, to the extent that you have to identify as a domestic terrorist to fit in with them.
 

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Normal people don't play the "both sides" and "whataboutism" cards with fascism,

Letting two enemies battle to the death is not "playing both sides" or "whataboutism cards". It's simply letting nature run its course.

The US, which spends the vast majority of federal funds on corporate welfare and the military, has never been in any danger of a Communist takeover.

I have a huge internet of random nobodies that I can ask for input about the stability of the US.
 

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has never been in any danger of a Communist takeover.
What about the lgbtq grooming that's happening in schools?!
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Letting two enemies battle to the death is not "playing both sides" or "whataboutism cards". It's simply letting nature run its course.
Communism is enemy number one. They risk the safety of the country like a parasite. Either your with us or you're not.
 

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