USA: are you better off than a year ago?

[the_randomizer]

Fair enough, although we still have to deal with the new tax bill that trump passed, which seems like it might damage the middle class. I'll also kinda miss CHIP, a bipartisan bill that gave little kids doctors visits that, if I recall correctly, the current government let expire.

I'm with you on the TPP not being great though.

I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to feel. I have some rather strong opinions on why I don't agree with liberal agendas in general, but I don't feel comfortable expressing said feelings on them here. Yes, it's the right forum, etc, but I just don't feel right about it.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

(i told myself I wouldn't come in here, but costello made it appealing)

The problem I had with Hillary wasn't if she would do something I would like or not (because all politicians are in it for themselves), but the fact that she was already doing things I didn't like. The most pressing being abortion, in which I have extremely strong opinions. She as a person just oozed the wrong aura. I definitely wouldn't want her leading the modern feminists.

Trump is a better businessman that he is a politician or a person (and considering that he isn't a fantastic businessman either this doesn't say a whole lot for him). I would rather have someone whose priorities are the businesses and companies over the thoughts and feelings of individuals. Granted, those are important, I just feel they aren't as important as staying afloat as a nation which is already in a bad state.

Fair enough, that's valid. Although I disagree on trump being a good businessman, he bankrupted quite a few of his business ventures. Also, someone did the math, and if he'd just put his inheritance in American S&P funds, which I believe are the default for the stock market, he'd hsve 20 billion dollars right now, double what he says his wealth is.

 

[Xanthe]

What kind of opinions are they, if I might ask? And what kinds of classes are they?

Personally one of my favorites is the classic, "All white people should take responsibility for their ancestors abuse towards black people".

One that happened just the other day in reference to Charlottesville was that, "Taking the middle ground in a debate between a white person and a black person is racist"

As I said, the class is AP US History. Many heated debates happen every day.

 

[WeedZ]

I can't even begin to imagine how oppressed you feel

It's not a contest of who's more oppressed. Being a minority doesn't give you guilt giving superpowers.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to feel. I have some rather strong opinions on why I don't agree with liberal agendas in general, but I don't feel comfortable expressing said feelings on them here. Yes, it's the right forum, etc, but I just don't feel right about it.

I won't be rude to you if you do, but I totally get it if you don't want to.

Also as a a sidenote, I wrote an edit on my original post on the CHIP thing, it actually did get renewed.

 

[Noctosphere]

here in canada, and quebec too, we dont have such republican party which are pro-guns, pro-religion, anti-homosexuality, anti-immigration, pretty much all party are against too many weapon in our streets, pro gay marriage (except conservator), pro immigration, religion stays out of politics since the confederation

The only difference between all those party is like, independance, way to manage economy, and some other project specific to each party, such as legalisation of mary for the canadian liberal party

 

[the_randomizer]

I won't be rude to you if you do, but I totally get it if you don't want to.

Also as a a sidenote, I wrote an edit on my original post on the CHIP thing, it actually did get renewed.

There are just certain topics in politics that truly cause me to feel indignant and to the point of where I want to storm out of a room. Yeah, certain topics really irk me, and maybe I'll make a blog about it, still on the fence.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

There are just certain topics in politics that truly cause me to feel indignant and to the point of where I want to storm out of a room. Yeah, certain topics really irk me, and maybe I'll make a blog about it, still on the fence.

I'll read if if you do

Edit: And respect whatever you say

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The problem I had with Hillary wasn't if she would do something I would like or not (because all politicians are in it for themselves), but the fact that she was already doing things I didn't like. The most pressing being abortion, in which I have extremely strong opinions. She as a person just oozed the wrong aura. I definitely wouldn't want her leading the modern feminists.

To quote a thing floating around that I agree with:

"In the Netherlands, abortion is freely available on demand. Yet the Netherlands boasts the lowest abortion rate in the world, about 6 abortions per 1000 women per year, and the complication and death rates for abortion are miniscule. How do they do it? First of all, contraception is widely available and free — it’s covered by the national health insurance plan. Holland also carries out extensive public education on contraception, family planning, and sexuality. An ethic of personal responsibility for one’s sexual activity is strongly promoted. Of course, some people say that teaching kids about sex and contraception will only encourage them to have lots of sex. But Dutch teenagers tend to have less frequent sex, starting at an older age, than American teenagers, and the Dutch teenage pregnancy rate is 9 times lower than in the U.S."

 

[the_randomizer]

I'll read if if you do

I'll need to seriously consider what to write and what sources to use.

 

[Stephano]

What kind of opinions are they, if I might ask? And what kinds of classes are they?

The classes that she has to take for social work tend to be more left leaning. not that there is anything wrong with that, its just that school environments tend to get quite toxic when there is one belief that significantly trumps the other. whether it be left or right.

The types of classes she takes are "human behavior in the social environment", "Diversity and oppression", classes studying the DMS5
From what she told me, she was treated differently by her professors for voting for trump. The day after trump won, a professor asked the students to say who they voted for. Every student except for two voted for hillary. After everyone spoke, she blamed Trump for interrupting class even though that the professor was the one that brought it up.

I know this is just an instance of some stupid things happening and may very well not be the majority.

 

[Deleted User]

To quote a thing floating around that I agree with:

"In the Netherlands, abortion is freely available on demand. Yet the Netherlands boasts the lowest abortion rate in the world, about 6 abortions per 1000 women per year, and the complication and death rates for abortion are miniscule. How do they do it? First of all, contraception is widely available and free — it’s covered by the national health insurance plan. Holland also carries out extensive public education on contraception, family planning, and sexuality. An ethic of personal responsibility for one’s sexual activity is strongly promoted. Of course, some people say that teaching kids about sex and contraception will only encourage them to have lots of sex. But Dutch teenagers tend to have less frequent sex, starting at an older age, than American teenagers, and the Dutch teenage pregnancy rate is 9 times lower than in the U.S."

Maybe it is because American teenagers are raised in a world where you can do no wrong? Where it is OK to go outside dressed in the most immodest clothing? Maybe they don't want to use contraception because it isn't as "dangerous"?

Abortions are just an excuse for teenagers who were raised wrong and want to "have fun".*

*Yes. I know, not all abortions are for that. Some may be in cases of rape, or other serious issues. However, you can't reverse a rape, and it isn't the child's fault that their father raped their wife, or vice versa.

 

[SG854]

It's not a contest of who's more oppressed. Being a minority doesn't give you guilt giving superpowers.

I'm not white and often times I have to defend white people because of the white blame game.
I spend more time defending white people than defending hispanics.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The classes that she has to take for social work tend to be more left leaning. not that there is anything wrong with that, its just that school environments tend to get quite toxic when there is one belief that significantly trumps the other. whether it be left or right.

The types of classes she takes are "human behavior in the social environment", "Diversity and oppression", classes studying the DMS5
From what she told me, she was treated differently by her professors for voting for trump. The day after trump won, a professor asked the students to say who they voted for. Every student except for two voted for hillary. After everyone spoke, she blamed Trump for interrupting class even though that the professor was the one that brought it up.

I know this is just an instance of some stupid things happening and may very well not be the majority.

Just curious, but why does she take such classes if she holds views that are contradictory to them?

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

Just curious, but why does she take such classes if she holds views that are contradictory to them?

I don't know her, but it's probsbly because she needs them to complete her degree.

 

[Anfroid]

The last year has been pretty great for me, got a good high paying government job, used the money from said job to invest in crypto. Which has given me more than enough to fund my hobbies.

 

[the_randomizer]

And another thing that royally pisses me off? No matter what side I take in political discussions, people always and I mean always, have to go out of their way to say how we're wrong. Or that our opinions never matter and that their opinions are always infallible and superior, so much so that one can't gain headway in a political debate. At least, from what I've seen.


I just wished people could agree without being disagreeable.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Maybe it is because American teenagers are raised in a world where you can do no wrong?

I don't personally see that as the case... care to elaborate?

Where it is OK to go outside dressed in the most immodest clothing?

Why does clothing matter in this context? Or any, really? The way I see it, way of dress really shouldn't matter as long as genetalia are covered and the outfit is appropriate for the weather and situation

Maybe they don't want to use contraception because it isn't as "dangerous"?

Those thinking like that are why we need better sex ed (not just AbStInAnCe iS tHe BeSt PrOtEcTiOn!!!11!1). Other, more common cases, though, are typically due to lack of availibility

*Yes. I know, not all abortions are for that. Some may be in cases of rape, or other serious issues. However, you can't reverse a rape, and it isn't the child's fault that their father raped their wife, or vice versa.

Just for the sake of promoting thought, how would abortion in the context of rape be any morally different than an abortion due to the mother's choice?

The way I see it, a child should never, EVER be a punishment for ANYTHING. A person should only ever have a child because they're ready to love and support another human being

 

[tatripp]

Trump hasn't done anything that'll hurt me. He has done great with the economy by cutting back silly regulations. He has done great with getting rid of PC culture. He has been kicking ISIS's butt mostly because he lets his generals do their job and isn't trying to appease backwards countries. North Korea is terrified of him. He is letting the media crumble under their own weight. He actually loves our country (listen to the crowd cheer when he was at the national anthem at the Alabama game). He isn't ashamed of USA. The tax plan is going to let many Americans keep more of their hard earned money. He is giving less money to the UN to use against the interest of the US. He pulled out of the stupid Paris Climate accords which were pointless.
Everyone keeps calling him crazy and dangerous but he has done nearly everything he promised to do. I didn't vote for Trump, but I wish I had.

 

[brickmii82]

Here’s how I see America and diversity....

You have 5 people that wanna cross a big lake. One person can hold their breath and swim fast underwater so they suggest that. Another is extremely smart and good with their hands so they suggest to build a boat. Another is really fast so they suggest just running around to the other side. The last 2 are just hardworking common folks that’ll do what it takes to come along and help one of the other 3.

Sure they’ll all get across one way or the other, but if they all team up they build Venice on that lake. That’s the strength in diversity, and the strength of America.

We all have ideas and dreams we’d like to see come to fruition. There’s 1000 different ways to do it, but in the end we just want happy comfortable lives.