What exactly are women marching for?

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By the way, enjoy this debate as much as you can here because you will never get to do it in real life, as women will accuse you of being misogynistic, to be MRA cucks, to call you homos, then they will cry and seek help from white knights that will beat the crap out of you.

 

[CallmeBerto]

By the way, enjoy this debate as much as you can here because you will never get to do it in real life, as women will accuse you of being misogynistic, to be MRA cucks, to call you homos, then they will cry and seek help from white knights that will beat the crap out of you.

#Cucklivesmatter

 

[Deleted User]

When people mention "equal pay" they're almost always referring to equal pay in the same position. "Heavy work"/blue collar work rarely pays well anyway.

yeah but that was just an example I jave experience with
we were carrying steel beams and the 2 girls just stood there bitching about how its too heavy while we had to carry it

 

[DRAGONBALLVINTAGE]

By the way, enjoy this debate as much as you can here because you will never get to do it in real life, as women will accuse you of being misogynistic, to be MRA cucks, to call you homos, then they will cry and seek help from white knights that will beat the crap out of you.

no the gays are friends with the feminist

 

[Xzi]

By the way, enjoy this debate as much as you can here because you will never get to do it in real life, as women will accuse you of being misogynistic, to be MRA cucks, to call you homos, then they will cry and seek help from white knights that will beat the crap out of you.

The internet is the place for exaggeration, hyperbole, insults, and keyboard warriors. People IRL tend to stay pretty calm and logical when discussing topics like these.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

I get the impression that Women's marches are less about explicit laws and more about real cultural change. If you look at monsters like Harvey Weinstein, they never kept women down by writing laws against them, they did it by basically blackmailing them into silence about what was going on by threatening things that were important to them (their acting careers in this case, but in smaller cases it can be things like threatening family or using embarrassing secrets). Women's marches are less about trying to change the laws in the books but more about changing people's minds, because you have to admit there are some people that downplay issues like resentment for women being outside of caretaking roles and for speaking up from what they see as minor sexual harassment issues. There's also the issue that people like Roy Moore and Al Franken that abuse their positions are still out there, even pretending to be on the side of women like Franken.

And just to be clear, I don't think it's strictly against males. There are women who helped Harvey Weinstein blackmail people he saw as troublesome, and even women who spoke up in favor of Adam Venit, the guy who grabbed Terry Crews's crotch.

My opinion is that the women marching are just trying to fight for what they see as problems, and they never tried to create more problems for me. Given that, I don't see why anyone should think negatively about the march. I can understand indifferent but not negatively.

 

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The internet is the place for exaggeration, hyperbole, insults, and keyboard warriors. People IRL tend to stay pretty calm and logical when discussing topics like these.

You mean like this?

 

[SecureBoot]

Gosh dang it. I was reading this and my favorite song came up and now I have to start it over because I wasnt paying attention. Thanks guys

 

[Deleted User]

See, I view the feminist movement (at least the modern one) very similarly to the equal rights movement (organizations similar to BLM).
Everybody is so quick to jump on the "Men are oppressing women!" boat, yet not so fast to support the men. What does this make? Well, by creating advertisements that specifically target women, saying that they can do it, saying they should go to college, saying they can run companies, you are creating an imbalance, where men don't get represented. But by creating an equal advertisement (replace all of they with we) you are offending feminists because apparently men are like this worshiped group that own literally everything.

This all boils down to the argument: Sexism/Racism is a thing, but Reverse Sexism/Racism is not.

By definition, both of these mean that either one sex or one race is better/more fit than the other. Has nothing to do with numbers, political power, or anything like that. Only the minds of those pushing it.

I really like Stefan Molyneux's video "The State of Masculinity" in which he describes the current state of being a man.

 

[Xzi]

You mean like this?

I mean, that is a Youtube video on the internet, but I watched most of it and didn't see anything extreme or inflammatory. Only a guy stammering and flailing around trying to make a coherent argument.

 

[Deleted User]

I mean, that is a Youtube video on the internet, but I watched most of it and didn't see anything extreme or inflammatory. Only a guy stammering and flailing around trying to make a coherent argument.

Well when you are one guy who can't get a sentence out at a time before being interrupted by obviously (and unreasonably) offended people, yeah, you might stammer too.

 

[Xzi]

Well when you are one guy who can't get a sentence out at a time before being interrupted by obviously (and unreasonably) offended people, yeah, you might stammer too.

I don't know if this is primarily a news or entertainment program or what, but they treated him fairly. They just didn't understand the premise of the book and the argument the guy was trying to make, and he failed to explain his reasoning clearly.

 

[CallmeBerto]

I look at all political matches first and formost through my own life experiances. From there I look at what the movements message is and what they are doing to meet their goals.

The problem with this movement is that either it doesn't match reality or want laws in place that are blantenly unfair to men. They say they want equality but they don't want the responsibility that comes with it.

 

[Deleted User]

I don't know if this is primarily a news or entertainment program or what, but they treated him fairly. They just didn't understand the premise of the book and the argument the guy was trying to make, and he failed to explain his reasoning clearly.

The whole television/live streaming interview concept where one person isn't in the same place as the other produces a failure on the interviewee because the interviewer has all the control.

 

[Xzi]

The whole television/live streaming interview concept where one person isn't in the same place as the other produces a failure on the interviewee because the interviewer has all the control.

Generally the host of a show has control even when there are live guests. An interviewee is still expected to represent themselves well regardless of who has the control, though. You're not gonna get anyone on your side if you can't be confident and speak clearly.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

I look at all political matches first and formost through my own life experiances. From there I look at what the movements message is and what they are doing to meet their goals.

The problem with this movement is that either it doesn't match reality or want laws in place that are blantenly unfair to men. They say they want equality but they don't want the responsibility that comes with it.

Like I said in my earlier post, it isn't just about explicit laws in the books, it's about cultural attitudes and peole like Harvey Weinstein and Al Franken who treat women as objects in their minds. Those two might not be a great example since they didn't exaclty act legally, but there are people like them that act within the law and still treat women as objects.

To make an analogy to the civil Rights movement, it's widely believed that if there had been a jury trial in the 1963 Alabama bombing of a black church immediately after it happened, the jurors would have found the bombers Innocent. There's nothing illegsl about making a case in a jury, but the beliefs of those people are still a problem. One of the greatest successes of the civil Rights movement was that they changed hearts as well as laws. And if you want a real-life case (since this is a hypothetical) look at the Emmet Till case.

Now, I'm not trying to equivalize the current treatment of women to the treatment of a group that often got lynched in cold blood. I'm trying to make the point that if you only look at the laws in that books instead of the beliefs society holds, you're missing most of the picture.

 

[Deleted User]

Generally the host of a show has control even when there are live guests. An interviewee is still expected to represent themselves well regardless of who has the control, though. You're not gonna get anyone on your side if you can't be confident and speak clearly.

Have you ever interviewed for a job? What if you and the interviewer don't like each other? They will not hire you, and they definitely won't even try to look at things from your perspective.

If you re-watch the video you will see that whenever he was about to make a point the interrupt him. One example is 2:25, and the interviewers were definitely not treating him fair.

"Peter, do you have a girlfriend?"
"No, I am single right now"
"huh, funny"

 

[Xzi]

Have you ever interviewed for a job? What if you and the interviewer don't like each other? They will not hire you, and they definitely won't even try to look at things from your perspective.

It's the same thing with job interviews, you've got to be the one to represent yourself well and leave an impression. You can't criticize the way they do an interview and expect to get a job, any failures are your own in this scenario.

If you re-watch the video you will see that whenever he was about to make a point the interrupt him. One example is 2:25, and the interviewers were definitely not treating him fair.

"Peter, do you have a girlfriend?"
"No, I am single right now"
"huh, funny"

I mean, it's a dumb question to ask, and people laughed which is why I asked if it was an entertainment show, but it wasn't the end of the interview. He still had plenty of time to make his case and simply couldn't.

 

[CallmeBerto]

Like I said in my earlier post, it isn't just about explicit laws in the books, it's about cultural attitudes and peole like Harvey Weinstein and Al Franken who treat women as objects in their minds. Those two might not be a great example since they didn't exaclty act legally, but there are people like them that act within the law and still treat women as objects.

To make an analogy to the civil Rights movement, it's widely believed that if there had been a jury trial in the 1963 Alabama bombing of a black church immediately after it happened, the jurors would have found the bombers Innocent. There's nothing illegsl about making a case in a jury, but the beliefs of those people are still a problem. One of the greatest successes of the civil Rights movement was that they changed hearts as well as laws. And if you want a real-life case (since this is a hypothetical) look at the Emmet Till case.

Now, I'm not trying to equivalize the current treatment of women to the treatment of a group that often got lynched in cold blood. I'm trying to make the point that if you only look at the laws in that books instead of the beliefs society holds, you're missing most of the picture.

People in power abuse their power. This has nothing to do with the women's match and more how people evil humans can be. How many men have been used as nothing more then ATMs by the women who claimed to love them and the second they were disabled left them.

Both men and women face solical pressures this is rooted in their biological. Ago women must be in the home bare foot and pregent and men must be a protector and provider for his family.

Doesn't really matter in the end, honestly fuck those people and live the life you want. If someone gets in your way telling you what you should or shouldn't do again tell them to fuck themselves.

 

[Deleted User]

It's the same thing with job interviews, you've got to be the one to represent yourself well and leave an impression. You can't criticize the way they do an interview and expect to get a job, any failures are your own in this scenario.


I mean, it's a dumb question to ask, and people laughed which is why I asked if it was an entertainment show, but it wasn't the end of the interview. He still had plenty of time to make his case and simply couldn't.

His arguments were well formed for the 30 seconds he was given to answer questions it took him pages to answer in his books.

So. You mean to tell me that if I am being interviewed by a feminist, I have an equally likely chance of getting the job as if being interviewed by a man? In theory, I should, but in practice, I don't.