So about Dark Brandon's speech last night...

[urherenow]

What can I expect from the party stupid enough to support the electoral college though?

Umm… what? Do you understand government at all? Do you know what it takes to add an amendment to the constitution? Do you know when the Republican Party was founded, and why? Now… do you know when the electoral college was created, and even the 12th amendment?

Everything you’ve said in this thread shows you’re an ignorant fool.

 

[urherenow]

You do realize Florida had the highest COVID infection rates in the nation as a result of dumbass Ron's loose restrictions, right? You reak of MAGA and it's not a good smell on you.

Lol… high, yes. Highest? No. Highest death rates from it? Nope. And all of your saviors still vacation there, despite all of the vitriol.

Rhode Island, North Dakota, and even Alaska, has had more cases per 100,000 people, than Florida.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map

 

[LainaGabranth]

Umm… what? Do you understand government at all? Do you know what it takes to add an amendment to the constitution? Do you know when the Republican Party was founded, and why? Now… do you know when the electoral college was created, and even the 12th amendment?

Everything you’ve said in this thread shows you’re an ignorant fool.

"waaaah you disagree with me you must be stupid" is not an argument. Tell us why you think red votes in blue states don't matter, like an adult, instead of throwing a tantrum.

 

[LainaGabranth]

whats with everyone saying cope? WE CAN ALL COPE TOGETHER!!!

Cope, the air and water flowing

 

[KitChan]

There are quite a few times (I think four) that he states that he will 'defend' against the MAGA Republicans and 'white extremists'. Also asks the nation to join him in doing so 2.5 times.

What's a white extremist? Is that like an extra bad type of extremist?

Like is there a shade based extremist threat scale were black extremists are the least dangerous, dark grey extremists are a bit more dangerous, light grey extremists are pretty dangerous and white extremists are a multiverse level threat?

Or does it mean there's a gang of disgruntled white collar workers causing chaos?

Or people who want the roads painted white?

 

[LainaGabranth]

I can't believe we are in an era where a president says "white nationalism is bad" and people who still think they're normal say "HE'S CALLING FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST ME FOR BEING A REPUBLICAN!!"

 

[Zajumino]

"waaaah you disagree with me you must be stupid" is not an argument. Tell us why you think red votes in blue states don't matter, like an adult, instead of throwing a tantrum.

You seem to have misinterpreted what urherenow said. I believe what he was saying is that your comments suggest you do not understand that the electoral college exists because it is in the Constitution, and not because one or more parties are for or against it. He then decided, based on that and other things you said, that you are ignorant, which means you lack knowledge.

I would not consider his comments to be a tantrum. The majority of what he said was a series of rhetorical questions that served to express his opinion about your understanding of the electoral college that I mentioned earlier. The remaining sentence was his conclusion about the knowledge that you posses. I disagree that what he said was an uncontrolled outburst of any kind. In fact, one might say that he showed great patience with regards to "everything you’ve said in this thread."

 

[KitChan]

I can't believe we are in an era where a president says "white nationalism is bad" and people who still think they're normal say "HE'S CALLING FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST ME FOR BEING A REPUBLICAN!!"

Personally I'm too tired to bother listening to the speeches and get all of the information second hand and I've seen people make claims that other people say are false.

So I can see why some people might echo false information if they're like me and only have conflicting secondhand information to pick what makes the most sense to their perspective from.

I've even echoed information that I later found out might be false later.

 

[urherenow]

"waaaah you disagree with me you must be stupid" is not an argument. Tell us why you think red votes in blue states don't matter, like an adult, instead of throwing a tantrum.

Typical democrat. Trying to spin away from every single question. It’s not a tantrum. You say only Republicans are for the electoral college. It was a thing before there even was a Republican party. It’s purpose and responsibility is encoded in an amendment to the constitution. To add an amendment requires 38 States to vote for it. Are there 38 “red” states even today?

You want a discussion, you need to first figure out which of your assertions has any basis in fact/reality.

 

[LainaGabranth]

You say only Republicans are for the electoral college.

This is what I'm talking about, the people on the right straight up do not live in fucking reality. Literally no where in my post did I say only republicans support the EC you dingus. Literally stopped reading there, if your post relies on a strawman to exist then your post is bad.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Personally I'm too tired to bother listening to the speeches and get all of the information second hand and I've seen people make claims that other people say are false.

So I can see why some people might echo false information if they're like me and only have conflicting secondhand information to pick what makes the most sense to their perspective from.

I've even echoed information that I later found out might be false later.

Which is fair, I don't fault people's exhaustion with politics, even I've succumbed to it. No one should be REQUIRED to listen to this shit for days on end and make sense of all the weaselly buzzword bullshit. But I think there's a difference between earnestly believing something that turns out to be wrong, and acknowledging it, and then knowing something is wrong and continuing to perpetuate it anyways for the sake of smearing the others, or, making shit up entirely. See the above post, the guy literally makes up a different post that no one in this thread, let alone me, made, so he can go on a fucking rant about it.

Politics in the US are FUCKED.

 

[Zajumino]

This is what I'm talking about, the people on the right straight up do not live in fucking reality. Literally no where in my post did I say only republicans support the EC you dingus. Literally stopped reading there, if your post relies on a strawman to exist then your post is bad.

What can I expect from the party stupid enough to support the electoral college though?

I am confusion.

I'm not an English major, but given there are two significant political parties in the U.S. right now, I am pretty sure the second comment strongly implies that the Republican party supports the electoral college and the Democratic party does not. Unless it's the other way around. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[LainaGabranth]

I am confusion.

I'm not an English major, but given there are two significant political parties in the U.S. right now, I am pretty sure the second comment strongly implies that the Republican party supports the electoral college and the Democratic party does not. Unless it's the other way around. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You are wrong, yes. My comment does not state or imply that the other does not. Republicans however hypocritically believe the Electoral College works, while ignoring that it disenfranchises anyone who lives in a blue state but votes red, as their red votes are not heard.

 

[Zajumino]

You are wrong, yes. My comment does not state or imply that the other does not. Republicans however hypocritically believe the Electoral College works, while ignoring that it disenfranchises anyone who lives in a blue state but votes red, as their red votes are not heard.

Like I said, I'm not an English major, but for future reference I think you should use 'a' instead of 'the' for what you were trying to say. The reason being that 'the' is usually used to refer to a person, place, or thing that is unique, as in "I'm the winner." I think that is what was causing confusion.

 

[LainaGabranth]

Like I said, I'm not an English major, but for future reference I think you should use 'a' instead of 'the' for what you were trying to say. The reason being that 'the' is usually used to refer to a person, place, or thing that is unique, as in "I'm the winner." I think that is what was causing confusion.

Nah it's okay, I don't actually care. The point to my post was pretty clear and this is just splitting hairs at the end of the day.

 

[City]

I can't believe we are in an era where a president says "white nationalism is bad" and people who still think they're normal say "HE'S CALLING FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST ME FOR BEING A REPUBLICAN!!"

I can see why some people wouldn't take him seriously after claiming that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist and the media circus tried to frame him as killing two "black men" for "no reason". It's like someone accuses someone at random for being a nazi without proof and then make a speech saying nazis bad. Yes they are bad, downright awful, but people aren't nazi just because you say so.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

claiming that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ed-white-power-signs-bar-prosecutors-n1254250
When you flash white supremacist signs, meet with a the proud boys, and the proud boys singing the proud boy's anthem to him, and the proud boys themselves are established as a white supremacist group.
Idk chief, that sounds pretty white supremacist to me. But what do I know. He'd have to call himself a white supremacist to be a white supremacist...
right?

Edit: at the end of the day odds are your going to either say "Fake news" or try to hustle some sort of defense for this. Or more likely going to argue "well you call everyone a fascist, checkmate!" Even though I don't use the word fascist, unless I have absolutely strong evidence towards pointing, and state it pretty solemnly towards someone. And then some bs about how he can't be a white supremacist, leading into some bs strawman.
regardless, all these arguments would be deflection from the fact he did do those things.
Or the fact that you know, proudboys had weapons on jan6th.... or invaded the capital at all that day.
You know the "back the blue until we don't want to back the blue anymore because it's not aligning with our very specific harmful interests anymore" and proudboys showing up with other white supremacist groups like oath keepers. But again, what do I know. Noticing that all the sheep have the same kind of wool, bah the same way, and move the same, is not enough to believe they are bare minimum, at least similar. (with similar doing some fucking legwork since I'd say near identical) according to likely your logic.


Now what this has to do with Dark Brandon idk, so perhaps we should return there.

 

[urherenow]

This is what I'm talking about, the people on the right straight up do not live in fucking reality. Literally no where in my post did I say only republicans support the EC you dingus. Literally stopped reading there, if your post relies on a strawman to exist then your post is bad.

“What can I expect from the party stupid enough to support the electoral college though?”

Seems you aren’t even living in your own reality.

And you think it doesn’t imply anything. “THE”. 1. You are saying 1 party supports it.

And then your excuse for why it sucks, is the VERY REASON it exists in the first place. Without it, the 3 most populated states in the US, would effectively control the outcome of all elections. Damn the majority of the other 47 states.

Again, at least 38 States voted to have it codified in the constitution. The battle was decided way before you were born.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

And then your excuse for why it sucks, is the VERY REASON it exists in the first place. Without it, the 3 most populated states in the US, would effectively control the outcome of all elections. Damn the majority of the other 47 states.

congratulations, you just proved you don't care about a democracy. What do I mean
"Without it, the 3 most populated states in the US, would effectively control the outcome of all elections"
In other words, what you just demonstrated is that a minority of people control over the majority of people, Knowingly or Not. The same population of people that are commonly associated as democrats is the majority.

There's a reason most people in other countries have thrown out the electoral collage. It's because it barely can be democratic. It was fine for when when the next time you'd hear from your representative was 3-6 months later when information traveled incredibly slow. But horrible in our current system where information travels in mere seconds, combined with rampant gerrymandering. it's inexcusable.

unless your telling me that when 70% of people are overruled by 30% of other people is somehow democratic. But please, go on. Tell me how much you don't want a democracy and the will of the people to be represented in full.

 

[urherenow]

congratulations, you just proved you don't care about a democracy. What do I mean
"Without it, the 3 most populated states in the US, would effectively control the outcome of all elections"
In other words, what you just demonstrated is that a minority of people control over the majority of people, Knowingly or Not. The same population of people that are commonly associated as democrats is the majority.

There's a reason most people in other countries have thrown out the electoral collage. It's because it barely can be democratic. It was fine for when when the next time you'd hear from your representative was 3-6 months later when information traveled incredibly slow. But horrible in our current system where information travels in mere seconds, combined with rampant gerrymandering. it's inexcusable.

unless your telling me that when 70% of people are overruled by 30% of other people is somehow democratic. But please, go on.

Congratulations. You just proved that you don’t understand how the US government works. It is not a democracy, and it never was. It is a Republic, with democratically elected officials.
It is ALSO a union of states. States that can make their OWN laws. But you are crying, because you believe that a minority of states, should be able to effect laws and who sits in the oval office, for the majority of states… because more people live there.

No. Popular majority ruling a state is just fine. Don’t like the laws? Move somewhere else. But a majority of the STATES must approve laws that affect ALL OF THE STATES. Otherwise moving somewhere else wouldn’t even be an option.