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She was a good woman. I'm no royalist, but I'm proud to have spent the past 50+ years of my life in the UK with her as Queen. As for Charles, well he tries. He'll never be as good a monarch as her though.
 
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Didn't think I'd be bothered as I'm not a monarchist, but it's bumming me out as she was a pretty cool lady.

I was reading comments elsewhere and this seemed to be a common sentiment.

I'm guessing it's because, like them or not, the Royal Family are a large part of British 'Identity' for the lack of a better word. John Oliver IIRC once described them as 'our mascots' (which given current circumstances I'm aware may seem poor taste).

She's basically the only monarch my living family members has known.
 

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I know everyone likes to pretend the queen and monarchy are a good thing, but as queen she oversaw a lot of wrong and injustice and did fuck all about it.

You can argue she has limited power, but that doesn't excuse her from looking on as atrocities were committed and turning a blind eye. Her legacy is with the victims of British imperialism as far as I am concerned. Let's not even get into the royal family literally housing and protecting pedophiles.

Hopefully the monarchy ends soon and Britain truly becomes a republic with equal rights for all - and self determination for NI and Scotland.
 

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You can always see how popular people were and how many loved them when they die. Thousands of people will attend the queens state funeral and millions will watch in on TV. With an attitude like you have, I don't think you will need to worry about many tuning up when you come to the end of your life. Even if you didn't like her and she meant nothing to you, you should keep comments like that to yourself if you don't want to come across as a bit of a dick.
 

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You can argue she has limited power
That's literally it? What she could do in her little, she did:

- As of 2012, she helped raise over 1.4 billion GBP for over 500 charities
- She helped the relations with Ireland by visiting it after an important irish event
- She supported ending the south african apartheid
- The day after the 9/11 attacks, she arranged at Buckingam Palace to play the american anthem during the change of the guard, something that many americans still remember fondly
- She fought in WW2
- She raised a family. I know it doesn't seem that special, but I'm sure she'd have wanted it to be in the list

Not to mention all the great PR she has done over the decades. I don't know anybody whom considers her a clown. I can't say the same for many presidents/kings around the world.
 

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You can always see how popular people were and how many loved them when they die. Thousands of people will attend the queens state funeral and millions will watch in on TV. With an attitude like you have, I don't think you will need to worry about many tuning up when you come to the end of your life. Even if you didn't like her and she meant nothing to you, you should keep comments like that to yourself if you don't want to come across as a bit of a dick.
Stalin and Kim Jong Il had similar farewells, the amount of propaganda a nation consumes directly affects how many people care to show up to such events

The point still stands her legacy is stained with blood
 

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just someone's grandma, mum, auntie, sister and cousin, very valuable i think.
She also covered up for her pedo son. So fuck her.
 

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That's literally it? What she could do in her little, she did:

- As of 2012, she helped raise over 1.4 billion GBP for over 500 charities
- She helped the relations with Ireland by visiting it after an important irish event
- She supported ending the south african apartheid
- The day after the 9/11 attacks, she arranged at Buckingam Palace to play the american anthem during the change of the guard, something that many americans still remember fondly
- She fought in WW2
- She raised a family. I know it doesn't seem that special, but I'm sure she'd have wanted it to be in the list

Not to mention all the great PR she has done over the decades. I don't know anybody whom considers her a clown. I can't say the same for many presidents/kings around the world.
And of her pedophile son she protected or the death squads in Northern Ireland?
 
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RIP Lizzie - end of an era! 70 years... reminds me of the time fukkin Maggie Thatcher resigned. But in a bad way...

Not sure about that big eared fecker taking over, was kinda hoping he'd step aside and let Prince William have it, but he's waited long enough I guess! (Charles III eh, third in an illustrious line of excellent namesakes :lol:, guess he can't be worse than the first two!)
 

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If you don't think she has(had) influence in Westminster you are wrong
If she had one tenth of the influence you're claiming she had, there wouldn't even have been a settlement.

Also, as much as I don't like people banging minors, I really don't think someone doing a 17yo is a pedophile. Scumbag sure.
 

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If she had one tenth of the influence you're claiming she had, there wouldn't even have been a settlement.

Also, as much as I don't like people banging minors, I really don't think someone doing a 17yo is a pedophile. Scumbag sure.
No way that was the only minor he raped in all of his time with Epstein

You can argue whether he was a pathological pedophile sure, but as far as common speech goes - someone who rapes minors is a pedo

And as far as the settlement - that is US jurisdiction - the fact he wasn't extradited was entirely royal privilege and the Queen
 

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