What do you think is more harmful to the world? Racists, or religious fanatics?

[shrekexists]

Nah that's all on humanity, can't blame god for our carbon emissions and malicious use of technologies we've created. There were reports on climate change in newspapers dating all the way back to 1908.

I don't blame God I blame the open rebellion against God. God warned humanity the entire earth would pass away. The sea is actually dying like God predicted C02 is carbonating it and making it too acidic for a lot of sea life. Larvae aren't as able as adult fish for example to survive the increased acidity.

 

[Xzi]

why do you say things you know, with 100% fact, is entirely untrue.

It's 2023 and they're still trying to ban books and libraries. Freedom of thought, expression, and creativity are conservatism's biggest enemies.

I don't blame God I blame the open rebellion against God. God warned humanity the entire earth would pass away.

If you believe in creationism, god gave us brains so we could recognize that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. There are some things science can't explain, and that's where spirituality/faith has its place, but climate change and malware are not among those things.

 

[lolcatzuru]

It's 2023 and they're still trying to ban books and libraries. Freedom of thought, expression, and creativity are conservatism's biggest enemies.


If you believe in creationism, god gave us brains so we could recognize that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. There are some things science can't explain, and that's where spirituality/faith has its place, but climate change and malware are not among those things.

none of that is related to the overall point, and the left does this too, you intentionally leave it out because it terrifies you.

edit: the "too" portion only refers to banning of books, everything is only the something the left does.

 

[Xzi]

none of that is related to the overall point, and the left does this too, you intentionally leave it out because it terrifies you.

Lmao, no. The right has a monopoly on "won't somebody please think of the children" bullshit. Yet they won't do anything about school shootings or other issues directly impacting kids, because that would cost their donors money. Their only provided solution is to revoke Gen Z's right to vote, because they know young people can see right through their greed and hypocrisy.

 

[titan_tim]

Jesus, that's the biggest nonsensical mad-libs post I've ever seen!

"Actual (political party) would not allow Trojans like (mythical creature) to exist because they would likely kill (fictional character) on the second coming. There's no reason for something to exist if it's not of (fictional character) is the most (political leaning) someone can be. If you use a (fictional book) app on (OS) it warns you using the app can get you killed depending on (living condition) so obviously (noun) are evil unless they're secure to the point (noun) can't get into them."

There are some things science can't explain, and that's where spirituality/faith has its place

That sounds a bit odd. Just because something doesn't have an explanation yet, it doesn't give someone the right to make up reasonings for it with zero evidence. That has been very counter productive throughout history.

 

[shrekexists]

Jesus, that's the biggest nonsensical mad-libs post I've ever seen!

"Actual (political party) would not allow Trojans like (mythical creature) to exist because they would likely kill (fictional character) on the second coming. There's no reason for something to exist if it's not of (fictional character) is the most (political leaning) someone can be. If you use a (fictional book) app on (OS) it warns you using the app can get you killed depending on (living condition) so obviously (noun) are evil unless they're secure to the point (noun) can't get into them."


That sounds a bit odd. Just because something doesn't have an explanation yet, it doesn't give someone the right to make up reasonings for it with zero evidence. That has been very counter productive throughout history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)

"In December 2018, a New York Times investigation concluded that Pegasus software played a role in the Khashoggi's murder, with a friend of Khashoggi stating in a filing that Saudi authorities had used the Israeli-made software to spy on the dissident.[132] NSO CEO Shalev Hulio stated that the company had not been involved in the "terrible murder", but declined to comment on reports that he had personally traveled to the Saudi capital Riyadh for a $55 million Pegasus sale.[133]"

"Cecilio Pineda Birto, a Mexican freelance journalist was assassinated by hitmen while resting in a hammock by a carwash. Brito had been reporting on the ties between local politicians and criminal organizations, and had received anonymous death threats during the weeks preceding the assassination; at about the same time, his phone number was selected as a possible target for Pegasus surveillance by a Mexican Pegasus client. Pegasus spyware may have been used to ascertain Brito's location to carry out the hit by geolocating his phone; the deployment of Pegasus on his phone could however not be confirmed as his phone disappeared from the scene of the murder.[106]"

This isn't a joke people died.

 

[titan_tim]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)

Ok, spyware exists. That's something everyone should know. That doesn't link to god/conservatives/or anything else of that cluster of nonsense you spewed out.

It's also spyware that is obsolete as of iOS 16.0.3. Although more will be released as it always does.

 

[Xzi]

That sounds a bit odd. Just because something doesn't have an explanation yet, it doesn't give someone the right to make up reasonings for it with zero evidence. That has been very counter productive throughout history.

There's nothing wrong with having spirituality/faith as a typically science and logic-minded individual, is what I mean to say. It only becomes a problem when a person tries to enforce their faith/religion on others who don't believe the same things, or when it causes you to disregard objective data and common sense.

 

[shrekexists]

Ok, spyware exists. That's something everyone should know. That doesn't link to god/conservatives/or anything else of that cluster of nonsense you spewed out.

It's also spyware that is obsolete as of iOS 16.0.3. Although more will be released as it always does.

It probably works on the latest versions of iOS and Android and is kept updated without the Wikipedia page being updated due to most people being unaware of infection. You should study more about the beliefs of others before you judge them. You don't seem to understand basic concepts in Christianity leading to confusion. I can easily comprehend this from your point of view but you can't view mine. Would you comment in such a way if i was talking about something like an anime or a movie you never watched or read about?

 

[titan_tim]

There's nothing wrong with having spirituality/faith as a typically science and logic-minded individual, is what I mean to say. It only becomes a problem when a person tries to enforce their faith/religion on others who don't believe the same things, or when it causes you to disregard objective data and common sense.

Overall, it's pretty harmless, I agree. But mentally, it's something that we usually try to avoid in other instances.

If someone believes something without evidence of any kind, it could lead to that person continuing with that pattern through their life. Some people used to believe that the moon was made of cheese. It's a harmless thought that nobody would take seriously. But those same people would continue to live their lives without the basics of discerning evidence around them. It's how we are where we are today with people reverting to flat earthers.

You should study more about the beliefs of others before you judge them. You don't seem to understand basic concepts in Christianity leading to confusion.

My comment to you wasn't specifically about christianity, but the fact that you are trying to create a connection of spyware to things that are unrelated. It looked absolutely unhinged.

 

[shrekexists]

Overall, it's pretty harmless, I agree. But mentally, it's something that we usually try to avoid in other instances.

If someone believes something without evidence of any kind, it could lead to that person continuing with that pattern through their life. Some people used to believe that the moon was made of cheese. It's a harmless thought that nobody would take seriously. But those same people would continue to live their lives without the basics of discerning evidence around them. It's how we are where we are today with people reverting to flat earthers.


My comment to you wasn't specifically about christianity, but the fact that you are trying to create a connection of spyware to things that are unrelated. It looked absolutely unhinged.

It is perfectly logical you simply lack prerequisites and fail even to comprehend how much of what was said was related to Christianity and the times we live in. Do you expect a supreme being in a mortal human male body going around like it's the year 10 or actually being in the time period? Over 1 billion people claim to believe in God and a lot more would with signs from God so obviously he would be sent a Trojan if he has a computer. You are a third wheel in a conversation of two people who literally believe in God while you wear a pasta strainer on your head and act like I am illogical. The difference between God and the flying spaghetti monster is one is truly a joke religion while the other is literally believed.

 

[titan_tim]

Over 1 billion people claim to believe in God and a lot more would with signs from God so obviously he would be sent a Trojan if he has a computer.

Oh yes, obviously. That makes perfect sense.......

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING AND STOP SMOKING IT RIGHT AWAY!!!

The difference between God and the flying spaghetti monster is one is truly a joke religion while the other is literally believed.

First, I'm honored you know about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Praise be to him. Ra-men.

Second, the church of the flying spaghetti monster was made as a joke, that is correct. Whereas believers in a story where the god created rules to go to hell, then created himself in human form to be sacrificed to save people who don't follow the rules he created in the first place, well, they're the joke at this point.

 

[shrekexists]

Oh yes, obviously. That makes perfect sense.......

WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING AND STOP SMOKING IT RIGHT AWAY!!!


First, I'm honored you know about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Praise be to him. Ra-men.

Second, the church of the flying spaghetti monster was made as a joke, that is correct. Whereas believers in a story where the god created rules to go to hell, then created himself in human form to be sacrificed to save people who don't follow the rules he created in the first place, well, they're the joke at this point.

It would be really sick actually if Christianity wasn't true and anyone who cares about other people would either be screaming or weeping. God certainly isn't a joke. Humans are created in God's form BTW as in he designed the entire planet and made beings that look like him. You have to be joking around if you don't believe even humans could do that within the next 200 years provided they are still around. It is possible to make mars like earth with the right technology and fly there.

 

[titan_tim]

It would be really sick actually if Christianity wasn't true and anyone who cares about other people would either be screaming or weeping. God certainly isn't a joke.

Nobody would be screaming or weeping. If that were true, that's all people would have been doing before christianity ever existed. I've told people in the past that I'll never say 100% that a creator figure doesn't/didn't exist. What I DO say 100% is that the god of the bible (Or any other man-made religion) is not real.

Sorry, but your god is a joke. Referring to your own book, it is evident that god is evil and immoral.

 

[shrekexists]

Nobody would be screaming or weeping. If that were true, that's all people would have been doing before christianity ever existed. I've told people in the past that I'll never say 100% that a creator figure doesn't/didn't exist. What I DO say 100% is that the god of the bible (Or any other man-made religion) is not real.

Sorry, but your god is a joke. Referring to your own book, it is evident that god is evil and immoral.

There is no evidence you have read it. If i knew in my heart you did read it then you are right you would go to hell for worshiping spaghetti and meatballs instead of the creator of the universe and your species.

 

[titan_tim]

There is no evidence you have read it. If i knew in my heart you did read it then you are right you would go to hell for worshiping spaghetti and meatballs instead of the creator of the universe and your species.

Here's a fun survey for you:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...gnostics-know-more-about-bible-than-religious

It's official: The easiest way to create atheists is to read the bible.

 

[Xzi]

Here's a fun survey for you:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...gnostics-know-more-about-bible-than-religious

It's official: The easiest way to create atheists is to read the bible.

Or at least agnostics like me who then evolve into being pseudo-pagan.

 

[shrekexists]

Here's a fun survey for you:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...gnostics-know-more-about-bible-than-religious

It's official: The easiest way to create atheists is to read the bible.

What specifically would someone read and become atheist? I know people who read the bible and became believers. When I read the bible it just made me better with computers because of how logical things are in it. I can just simply state people are in error and other believers view this as logical.

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Or at least agnostics like me who then evolve into being pseudo-pagan.

Why did you decide on pseudo-paganism instead of God?

 

[Norris]

You are clearly someone who is an idiot and you do not even deserve this response. Islam is the greatest thing there is, nothing is greater than Islam it is perfect. You have to be a complete idiot to believe racism is worse than the most amazing thing in the universe.

 

[titan_tim]

What specifically would someone read and become atheist?

I see we're going to have to go into bible study now. Let's just list a TINY section if the insanities that are in the bible that regular people don't follow (And are better people for it).

"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him."
-I love my parents, but I'm sure there are people out there with absolutely monstrous parents. They don't deserve to die for saying that they had bad parents.

“And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, so that he dies under his hand, he shall surely be punished. Notwithstanding, if he remains alive a day or two, he shall not be punished; for he is his property."
-You'd think that a god would know that slavery is immoral, right? All-knowing and all that. I've seen many christians twist themselves in painful knots trying to circle that square.

"And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have– from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property."
-See above

"But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father’s house. So you shall put away the evil from among you."
-Pre-marital sex = death. (Only the women of course). Yeah, that's pretty immoral.

Ignoring specific quotes, the ENTIRE belief that Jesus is there to take on the sins of others is wholly immoral as well. For an easy example, let's say some horrible person comes to your house and kills your family. You want that person to be punished for their deeds. Then some guy comes around and says "I'll go to jail instead of that murderer". That proxy person goes to jail, while the murderer goes free. Is that how things should be handled? Of course not!

Similarly, if someone doesn't know about the bible and is starving. That person steals food to survive. That person is going to hell, based on what the bible says. INFINITE TORTURE for the crime of stealing. Is that reasonable? Should that person suffer for eternity like Hitler? Once again, laughably immoral.

When I read the bible it just made me better with computers because of how logical things are in it.

Seriously, I can only laugh at that.