What do you think is more harmful to the world? Racists, or religious fanatics?

[Tarmfot]

It is not a fun time to be an American. I think two of the biggest problems that we face in society are racism and religious intolerance or extremism. Both sets of people actively HATE other people, and are in a lot of cases willing to either do violence to them, or at the very least, marginalize them and deprive them of rights, or just try to make their lives a living hell for not believing in the same things.

Which of the two do you believe is the most harmful in this country?

Please stay friendly. Attack ideas, not people.

People that dont want free of speech.

 

[lolcatzuru]

If anyone is asking the proper questions in order to help themselves, then I'll absolutely wish them good luck. If you're older or younger than a teenager, then it doesn't really matter.

Also, I'm assuming you're joking about the twitter bots thing, but does it make sense for any bot to be commenting on an emulation site's comments board?

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Yeah, I am talking to a child.

Or a 50-year-old Karen who who spends all day long on MSNBC and CNN, convinced that everyone who doesn't believe there are 56 genders is a Russian bot, a racist or a Trump supporter.

I thought the whole "bot" thing went out in 2020.

You are incapable of participating in a logical debate. All you do is insult people and VERY pathetically try to position yourself as if you are better than anyone else.

Go play, child. The adults are talking. You are dismissed.

Now, back to bringing down the United States through my treacherous bot trickery.

hang on gonna email chris

 

[titan_tim]

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[lolcatzuru]

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[WalterSlovotsky]

who made this bot, all it does is talk about penis pills, i dont need those, boring.

I have the distinct feeling that this is your troll account, so you can protect your real one.

You have had multiple people remind you that you are being quite silly, and very outdated by claiming "bots".

Your ego is just incredible. You honestly think YOU. YOU. Are THAT important that someone would take the time to send multiple bots against you.

You seriously need a hobby. Maybe contact your local Big Brothers Big Sisters and see if they can help.

I hope you understand that I am being completely sincere when I say I feel bad for you and that I pity you. I can tell you are lonely. And I can see why.

 

[titan_tim]

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[tabzer]

Yeah, I've defined the former as faith for you multiple times, but I really don't care if you want to call it "belief" instead, those are two terms that actually are synonymous. Faith also stays the same over time, which is why it's passed down as a part of culture, while religion is ever-changing as churches and denominations adjust for their needs.

Faith, when incorporating ritual becomes religious. Faith can channel to hope or belief. Structured belief systems are religious, even if remote and unknown by the rest of the world.

Culture is not static.

Just stop talking.

"The gathering of like-minded people" has never been the definition of religion, that's the definition of a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament. As long as religion has existed, it has always assigned power to a priest/pastor/rabbi or equivalent, and the followers have always listened wide-eyed to their words as if they were the words of god. People have been calling churches "religious institutions" since the industrial revolution FFS, but the definition fit long before that too.

Oh. You are talking about "the church". Yeah, that's not a real religion. That's government. It killed a bunch of people Jesus liked. You can blame religion, I guess...

 

[Xzi]

Faith, when incorporating ritual becomes religious. Faith can channel to hope or belief. Structured belief systems are religious, even if remote and unknown by the rest of the world.

Wrong again, 'religion' is not synonymous with 'ritual' either. An individual can practice their own faith and own rituals without ever interacting with a religious institution.

Oh. You are talking about "the church". Yeah, that's not a real religion. That's government. It killed a bunch of people Jesus liked. You can blame religion, I guess...

I can and I will. Christians senselessly kill each other all the time, and a lot of the hatred responsible for that can be traced back to the divisions religion enforces.

Surely you've come across this joke on the internet before:

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"

He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"

He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too!"

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.

Perfectly summarizes the stupidity of prioritizing religions over the beliefs and lessons they were supposedly founded on.

 

[tabzer]

Wrong again, 'religion' is not synonymous with 'ritual' either.

That wasn't, at all, the claim. You say "again"? Where was I wrong before? I've refuted all of your objections brought up on this thread. You are constantly pivoting and dodging, as if you were playing a fighting game.

An individual can practice their own faith and own rituals without ever interacting with a religious institution.

Assuming the presence of some type of structure, it would be their (non-institutional) religion. For this discussion to make any progress, you need to answer one of the foundational questions I asked at the beginning of the thread. What is that "fine line" that defines something as "institutional".

You don't seem to accept the fact that religion doesn't have to be institutional, despite you having access to a dictionary.

 

[Xzi]

That wasn't, at all, the claim. You say again? Where was I wrong before? I've refuted all of your objections.

"Religion is not institutional," incorrect. "Religion is synonymous with faith/belief," incorrect.

It would be their non-institutionalized religion. For this discussion to make any progress, you need to answer one of the foundational questions I asked at the beginning of the thread. What is that "fine line" that defines something as "institutional".

A church/synagogue/mosque is an institution, a body that enforces certain rules and beliefs on the people that attend it, I'm not sure how that's unclear. Are there a few that are more "free form" or accepting of several different denominations? Absolutely, but those tend to be the exception rather than the rule.

 

[Angely]

Neither, it's actually humans themselves. As they're the ones that choose to commit atrocities, have ambitions & create ways control things/others etc. In the end it's humans that create culture, religions etc. aka society. Beliefs & opinions are related to human nature or needs, it's also from this you get things like racism all things things also correlate with their experiences, circumstances & personality. So, in the end it still boils down to the fact that humans themself are more harmful, rather than a byproduct of their existence.

 

[tabzer]

"Religion is not institutional," incorrect. "Religion is synonymous with faith/belief," incorrect.

You are being dishonest. "Religion is not institutional by definition" is correct. You are interested in institutionalized religion. I'm not so much.

I also did not say say "Religion is synonymous with faith/belief."

Are you going to address these points are you going to ignore them and claim them as wins that you had in the future (again).

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A church/synagogue/mosque is an institution, a body that enforces certain rules and beliefs on the people that attend it, I'm not sure how that's unclear. Are there a few that are more "free form" or accepting of several different denominations? Absolutely, but those tend to be the exception rather than the rule.

So the "gathering of people" have to "enforce rules and beliefs" to be an institution? I've been to many of those places in different countries, and I have had never had this experience of "enforcement". What part makes it institutional, for definitive purposes?

 

[Xzi]

You are being dishonest. "Religion is not institutional by definition" is correct. You are interested in institutionalized religion. I'm not so much.

I also did not say say "Religion is synonymous with faith/belief."

This contradicts itself and shows you are capable of understanding what I'm communicating here. Non-institutionalized religion is equivalent to an individual who holds a certain faith or set of beliefs. To start a religion, you need a group of people all believing the exact same things, and authority figures to regularly preach those beliefs, as well as a place for them to do it. There's nothing stopping a Christian who doesn't attend church from becoming friends with one that does, except for the stigma that other churchgoers might put on it.

So the "gathering of people" have to "enforce rules and beliefs" to be an institution? I've been to many of those places in different countries, and I have had never had this experience of "enforcement". What part makes it institutional, for definitive purposes?

If you're "just visiting," nobody really cares. It's when you actually want to practice and become part of a religion that the particulars of a church's rules and beliefs gain priority. Try to become a member of multiple churches with different sets of beliefs and you're bound to be kicked out of one or all of them. Religious institutions do not like competing with one another, despite the fact that they've been doing it for thousands of years.

 

[tabzer]

This contradicts itself and shows you are capable of understanding what I'm communicating here. Non-institutionalized religion is equivalent to an individual who holds a certain faith or set of beliefs. To start a religion, you need a group of people all believing the exact same things, and authority figures to regularly preach those beliefs, as well as a place for them to do it. There's nothing stopping a Christian who doesn't attend church from becoming friends with one that does, except for the stigma that other churchgoers might put on it.

First thing's first, "not institutional by definition" does not mean "can't be institutional (or better; institutionalized) by definition". If we are quibbling over this nuance, you can put it to rest. However, an individual can start and maintain their own religion without recruiting anybody. I'd even argue that even though a person is "Christian", that they have their own unique religion that doesn't quite align with their "congress". You are still failing to answer what makes a religion an institution.

 

[lolcatzuru]

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oh btw spoke to chris hansen, he said he'll speak with you

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I have the distinct feeling that this is your troll account, so you can protect your real one.

You have had multiple people remind you that you are being quite silly, and very outdated by claiming "bots".

Your ego is just incredible. You honestly think YOU. YOU. Are THAT important that someone would take the time to send multiple bots against you.

You seriously need a hobby. Maybe contact your local Big Brothers Big Sisters and see if they can help.

I hope you understand that I am being completely sincere when I say I feel bad for you and that I pity you. I can tell you are lonely. And I can see why.

You are 0 for like 12 here, this isnt a troll account at all,i have never trolled and never will, but more so, for you to think that i would waste my time with what i can only assume is an ex twitter employee or a bot, makes me pity you, so we share the sentiment there.

Also no, i have a ton of friends am grossly successful and not lonely at all, however i will say, you are welcome to continue to project if it helps you.

 

[Xzi]

However, an individual can start and maintain their own religion without recruiting anybody.

That would be founding a faith, or a set of beliefs. The entire purpose of religion is to spread and recruit. It's like calling a game that only has one player an "MMO." Makes no sense.

I'd even argue that even though a person is "Christian", that they have their own unique religion that doesn't quite align with their "congress".

They can have their own faith independent of any church, absolutely. If a person tries to claim they're part of a specific denomination without ever attending the corresponding church, that tends to cause some major conflict.

 

[tabzer]

That would be founding a faith, or a set of beliefs. The entire purpose of religion is to spread and recruit. It's like calling a game that only has one player an "MMO." Makes no sense.

"A faith" and "a set of beliefs" are not the same as "faith" and "belief". "A faith", indicates a particular application of faith, paralleling religious behavior, and if systematically conceptualized, a religion. "A set of beliefs", is even less nuanced when indicating "religion".

They can have their own faith independent of any church, absolutely. If a person tries to claim they're part of a specific denomination without ever attending the corresponding church, that tends to cause some major conflict.

Using the word "faith" to indicate a particular kind of belief system indicates the presence of a religion, whether or not it comports with some sort of congregation's appraisal. Religion is usually deeply personal and subjective, after all. Again, you are failing to address "institution".

 

[Xzi]

"A faith" and "a set of beliefs" are not the same as "faith" and "belief". "A faith", indicates a particular application of faith, paralleling religious behavior, and if systematically conceptualized, a religion. "A set of beliefs", is even less nuanced when indicating a "religion".

Using the word "faith" to indicate a particular kind of belief system indicates the presence of a religion, whether or not it comports with some sort of congregation's appraisal. Religion is usually deeply personal and subjective, after all. Again, you are failing to address "institution".

All this tells me is that you've been confusing the two as synonymous your entire life and you're too stubborn to stop. Faith, spirituality, belief, morals, values, there are any number of terms which you can properly apply to an individual. An individual can also be religious, but that just means they're devoted to a particular religious institution. Language is somewhat fluid, but religion has basically been the same communal experience since Egypt introduced Ra the sun god. One person does not a religion make, any more than one person can be considered a team.

 

[tabzer]

An individual can also be religious, but that just means they're devoted to a particular religious institution.

It CERTAINLY does not--and that's the entire lesson you've failed to learn. People can and do have their own religions.

All this tells me is that you've been confusing the two as synonymous your entire life and you're too stubborn to stop.

My explanation demonstrated the difference between the words and how modifiers can change their meaning in the context of a sentence. You are having a fit.

Faith, spirituality, belief, morals, values, there are any number of terms which you can properly apply to an individual.

Oh. Words.

Language is somewhat fluid, but religion has basically been the same communal experience since Egypt introduced Ra the sun god.

Nope. Religion can be understood in both static and dynamic terms.

One person does not a religion make, any more than one person can be considered a team.

Lol. Only if you think that a tree falling a forest doesn't make a sound if nobody is there to hear it.

Otherwise, by definition, religion does not require a "team" (of people at least).

 

[erikas]

The current most harmful thing for america are leftists.